Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:59:32 04/19/01
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On April 19, 2001 at 05:22:46, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On April 18, 2001 at 20:26:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 18, 2001 at 18:11:28, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On April 17, 2001 at 15:12:19, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On April 17, 2001 at 13:54:59, Chessfun wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 17, 2001 at 13:40:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 17, 2001 at 10:25:33, Mogens Larsen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 17, 2001 at 09:57:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Supposed _I_ set up a tournament to choose the program to play? And then >>>>>>>>suppose _I_ said "if you want in, send me $50,000 to enter your program."?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Would you enter even if you _knew_ Rebel xx was the best in the world? And >>>>>>>>risk that kind of money to get in knowing that one game can be lost due to a >>>>>>>>bad book line or bug? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Charging an entry fee is a bit of a joke, IMHO. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It means the deeper your pockets, the better your chances... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Well, at least there's a refund for those that don't make it :-). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Seriously, can anyone blaim SMK for not handing over $5000 and Shredder to a >>>>>>>third party for this socalled qualifier? I think not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Mogens. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Let's try a different approach. Let _me_ handle the qualification tournament. >>>>>>Here are my rules: >>>>> >>>>>Making posts as above "is a bit of a joke, IMHO" since you clearly hadn't >>>>>even bothered reading the current rules well enough to know the $5,000.00 >>>>>was refunded to losing programs. >>>> >>>>What makes you conclude that? I can read perfectly well. But I would not >>>>send $5,000.00 in no matter what, because I try to spend my money more wisely >>>>than that. >>> >>> >>>You wrote "risk that kind of money" as in if the program lost the money >>>was forfeit. That wasn't the case as already posted by Bertil. >>>No you change that to sending the money in.. >> >>Do you get it back under _any_ circumstance? No. So you pay it and take >>a chance on getting it back. That is the classic definition of "risk" in >>my Webster's... Since there is a circumstance where I won't get it back. >> >> >> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>>Any publicly released chess program can enter. Including patches. So Rebel >>>>>>could enter 2 programs since Ed has (I think) released the original rebel plus >>>>>>a patch this year. I get to enter all 19 released versions of Crafty. If those >>>>>>are the only two entries, care to bet who is going to win? Statistically one >>>>>>of my 19 versions will win even if all are worse than either of Ed's two >>>>>>versions. >>>>>> >>>>>>This is what has happened if you include Deep Shredder, Deep Fritz, and Deep >>>>>>Junior. A trivia question: Which chess distributor has the best chance of >>>>>>winning that event? :) >>>>>> >>>>>>It is called "stacking the deck in your favor." >>>>> >>>>>Hogwash. Tell that to Amir Ban. In your case above tell me that Amir >>>>>wouldn't want to win as much as Stefan and that his odds of doing so >>>>>are greater due to your "stacking the deck in your favor." theory. >>>> >>>>No. But the "distributor" certainly has a big interest in having one of >>>>"Its" engines as the competitor. So it is not "hogwash" at all. It is >>>>plain marketing, front-to-back... >>> >>> >>>The distributor does yes. But how does the distributor stck the deck >>>when the choices are made by two independant people? >> >>By having _two_ of his programs in the contest to _one_ from the opponents... >> >>Two programs have a greater probability of winning than one. >> >>IE we simply play 'high card wins'. But I get two cards each time and you >>get one. Who wins the most? > >Hi! > >And you are sure that Chessbase is the distributor of Junior7 (X)? > >Bertil I'm not sure of _anything_ nowadays. But since they distributed all previous versions, I would suspect so, yes.
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