Author: Chessfun
Date: 22:22:14 04/19/01
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On April 19, 2001 at 22:06:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 19, 2001 at 20:36:58, Chessfun wrote: > >>On April 19, 2001 at 06:37:35, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>On April 18, 2001 at 23:51:36, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>>Amir never wrote anything that proves the distributor had anything >>>>to do with it. >>> >>>That's true. But I assume that ChessBase have funded tournament participation in >>>human GM tournaments in the past for Fritz and Junior. That is why I doubt that >>>ChessBase wasn't consulted by Amir. >>> >>>Of course, it's pure speculation. But with a financial agreement existing >>>between the two and given the commercial possibilities in a match against >>>Kramnik, I doubt ChessBase kept absolutely quiet. >>> >>>>Amir wrote they negotiated, the same as Shredder could >>>>have. >>> >>>No, he wrote that they negotiated _after_ Ossi said: We're out! That is >>>something different. The negotiations didn't result in major changes, so the >>>argument isn't valid. >> >>The argument is about whether Chessbase stacked the deck as you termed it. >>Either that is correct or it isn't. Nothing Amir said indicates that is so. >>Whether they negotiated prior to Shredder withdrawl or after I don't see as >>relevant. >> >>Sarah. >Mogens is right here. Obviously the two remaining entries are ChessBase >programs. You might think that is a coincidence. I find that a bit hard >to swallow. But then I have seen many of the older micro tournaments and >watched the "fixing" that went on. So this doesn't seem odd at all by those >standards. I don't think it's coincidence. I think they are the best two available commercial programs remaining. And since they themselves didn't pick which programs should or shouldn't be invited how did they themselves stack any deck?. >Since Ferret finished higher than fritz or junior at the last WCCC event, >Ferret should have been the next choice if Shredder / SMK were not interested. >Bruce was not even contacted. Does that seem normal or a bit odd? Especially >since Ferret fits the so-called "deep" paradigm.... although I hate that term. After a what 10 round event from a tournament what 1-1/2 yrs ago. Ferret should have been chosen?. Ferret don't actually play many games to be able to compare it's strength. It does on ICC but that's at 5/3 mostly. Naturally Ferret like Crafty fits the SMP requirement, however it would seem easier for the BGN to attract sponsors using a commercial entry. Sarah.
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