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Subject: Re: Support 4 single chip chess v Kramnik

Author: Chessfun

Date: 22:22:14 04/19/01

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On April 19, 2001 at 22:06:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 19, 2001 at 20:36:58, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On April 19, 2001 at 06:37:35, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 18, 2001 at 23:51:36, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>Amir never wrote anything that proves the distributor had anything
>>>>to do with it.
>>>
>>>That's true. But I assume that ChessBase have funded tournament participation in
>>>human GM tournaments in the past for Fritz and Junior. That is why I doubt that
>>>ChessBase wasn't consulted by Amir.
>>>
>>>Of course, it's pure speculation. But with a financial agreement existing
>>>between the two and given the commercial possibilities in a match against
>>>Kramnik, I doubt ChessBase kept absolutely quiet.
>>>
>>>>Amir wrote they negotiated, the same as Shredder could
>>>>have.
>>>
>>>No, he wrote that they negotiated _after_ Ossi said: We're out! That is
>>>something different. The negotiations didn't result in major changes, so the
>>>argument isn't valid.
>>
>>The argument is about whether Chessbase stacked the deck as you termed it.
>>Either that is correct or it isn't. Nothing Amir said indicates that is so.
>>Whether they negotiated prior to Shredder withdrawl or after I don't see as
>>relevant.
>>
>>Sarah.


>Mogens is right here.  Obviously the two remaining entries are ChessBase
>programs.  You might think that is a coincidence.  I find that a bit hard
>to swallow.  But then I have seen many of the older micro tournaments and
>watched the "fixing" that went on.  So this doesn't seem odd at all by those
>standards.


I don't think it's coincidence. I think they are the best two available
commercial programs remaining. And since they themselves didn't pick
which programs should or shouldn't be invited how did they themselves
stack any deck?.

>Since Ferret finished higher than fritz or junior at the last WCCC event,
>Ferret should have been the next choice if Shredder / SMK were not interested.
>Bruce was not even contacted.  Does that seem normal or a bit odd?   Especially
>since Ferret fits the so-called "deep" paradigm....  although I hate that term.

After a what 10 round event from a tournament what 1-1/2 yrs ago. Ferret
should have been chosen?. Ferret don't actually play many games to be able
to compare it's strength. It does on ICC but that's at 5/3 mostly. Naturally
Ferret like Crafty fits the SMP requirement, however it would seem easier for
the BGN to attract sponsors using a commercial entry.

Sarah.







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