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Subject: Re: Why Shredder is not playing...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:04:44 04/20/01

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On April 20, 2001 at 00:26:17, Mike S. wrote:

>On April 19, 2001 at 23:37:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 18, 2001 at 16:24:14, Mike S. wrote:
>>
>>>On April 18, 2001 at 13:35:44, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>
>>>>That is a very commendable attitude, but as a wildcard entry you didn't have
>>>>anything to lose. So the laissez-faire attitude is somewhat free IMO.
>>>
>>>(...)
>>>I think this kind of talk isn't necessary.
>
>>The term "wild card" is entirely appropriate.  It means "someone made it to
>>the playoffs outside the normal methodology".  (...)
>>This is a sort of dethroning through the back door...
>
>Is it normal methodology, to "retroactively" declare London 2000, or Paderborn
>1999, having been a qualifying for a Kramnik match? AFAIK Braingames isn't
>related to the ICCA (to FIDE neither). If Deep Shredder plays the BGN qualifying
>and does not win (I would expect a very narrow outcome in each case), Shredder
>keeps the WCCC title IMO.


No more than it is normal to refer to player X as world champion six months
after he won the last WC tournament.  It isn't "retroactively" done at all.
Shredder _is_ the current World Computer Chess Champion _and_ the current
World MicroComputer Chess Champion.  Because it won both of those titles in
head-to-head play with other programs at an ICCA _sanctioned_ event.



>
>As you may have guessed, I'm not so much into titles (anymore)... It's the men,
>the programs and the games that are important; BGN seemingly need to call it
>World Championship to attract non-chess media. Which would be good for computer
>chess in general I think, to refresh the memory of a larger public, that
>computer chess is played at master level. They are not aiming for in-depth
>experts and enthusiasts only, but for the whole world as an audience; that's
>part of what I meant by "dimension". And I appreciate that.
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl



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