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Subject: Re: Why Tiger calls it Mate in 25?

Author: Chessfun

Date: 07:17:19 04/20/01

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On April 20, 2001 at 10:13:09, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 20, 2001 at 09:59:04, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On April 20, 2001 at 09:39:29, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>On April 20, 2001 at 09:01:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 19, 2001 at 23:34:48, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 19, 2001 at 21:00:50, Jeff Lischer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 19, 2001 at 10:23:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Somebody's confused somewhere.  It is a mate in 26 starting with Ne4.  IE
>>>>>>>counting Ne4, white needs exactly 26 moves to force mate.  What's with all
>>>>>>>the other numbers these programs are getting???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did some experimenting Tiger and it seems that Tiger rounds down! If the mate
>>>>>>is in 1 ply (or 0.5 moves) Tiger calls it Mate in 0. Tiger calls mate in 2 plies
>>>>>>(1.0 moves) Mate in 1. And so on. Since the position above is mate in 51 plies
>>>>>>(25.5 moves), Tiger calls it Mate in 25. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know about the other programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>You are correct Christophe has written on this here before.
>>>>>As for the others programs no idea why they had different #s to mate.
>>>>>I have all 3,4 and 5 men bases in one directory 7.05 GB.
>>>>>All programs ran for about one minute.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>7.05 sounds wrong.  I get this:
>>>>
>>>>7411980
>>>>
>>>>and I _know_ I have all the 3-4-5 piece files there...
>>>
>>>Hi Bob,
>>>
>>>Just made a little dos program that loops through all my (290) etb-files to add
>>>up the total size; I get: 7580348624, which is exactly what w98 says, and if you
>>>divide that by 1024^3 you get 7.05 GB ... or ~7,402,684 kB. Strange?
>>>
>>>Groetjes,
>>>Paul
>>
>>I have the same as Paul 290 files.
>>Actually Dr. I downloaded all the 5 men them from your site. Thanks for that.
>>Paul what was the post? it isn't there now?. Email it?.
>
>OK I got it.
>Actually one thing I forgot when I downloaded was I was downloading more
>than a single file at a time more like 6 whether that decreased the time
>who knows.
>
>Sarah.
>
>
>Subject: Re: Chess Tiger & Gambit Tiger Nalimov Tablebases Support??
>From: Paul
>E-mail: frisbee@xs4all.nl
>Message Number: 160031
>Date: March 24, 2001 at 09:21:56
>  In Reply to: Re: Chess Tiger & Gambit Tiger Nalimov Tablebases Support??
>  Message ID: 160001
>  Posted by: Chessfun
>  At: chessfun_1999@yahoo.com
>  On: March 24, 2001 at 04:36:34
>
>On March 24, 2001 at 04:36:34, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On March 24, 2001 at 04:24:49, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:
>>
>>>>>>As an idea of time, I downloaded all 5 men tablebases from
>>>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/five/ on a cable
>>>>>>modem it took about 8 hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sarah how large was the download ?
>>>>>thanks
>>>>>Wayne
>>>>
>>>>I'm not certain as I never tracked the size. And all my tablebase
>>>>files are in the same directory 3, 4, and 5 men. But I would guess
>>>>the 5 men were 8 GB.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>Sarah, how did you have such a sustained troughput: your figures suggest you had
>>>a bandwidth of ~300 KBytes/second for 8 hours continuosly.
>>>From Australia to US? I work for Teleco and I'm happy to have 30K sustanined til
>>>US.
>>>
>>>Are you sure that the 8 GB are not the figures of the uncompressed version of
>>>the files?
>>>
>>>ciao
>>>Franz
>>
>>Hi Franz,
>>        I was only guessing as to the size of the tablebases.
>>I'm sure Dr. Hyatt could state exactly what the total size of
>>all the 5 men bases is. Taking a better look at the size of
>>my harddrive and what else is on it maybe 6 GB is a better guess.
>>
>>I did do one otherthing. I just now starting downloading a 6 man file
>>as it was the only way I could think of to check the speeds and the
>>download file speed is 122/kb sec.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>Hi ...
>
>You can easily see the size of a directory by right-clicking on a folder in
>windows and choosing properties ... or take the equivalent keyboard route and
>press "Alt Enter". Mine says all 3+4+5 men tb's total 7.05 GB ... It took me
>quite some time to download them all at ~55kB/s using ADSL :)
>
>Groetjes,
>Paul

I never replied to that? sorry about that, I meant to as I did
it immediately after the post. As after was when I tried to download
to my win 95 machine or laplink them over.

Sarah.




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