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Subject: Re: A question about the pentium4

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 12:11:40 04/20/01

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On April 20, 2001 at 11:06:34, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On April 20, 2001 at 08:48:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 20, 2001 at 08:41:41, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>Uri,
>>>
>>>ref: http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu2000/results/cint2000.html
>>>Specint2000:
>>>                    Crafty
>>>             Peak   Peak Ratio
>>>P3  1.13GHZ  464    589
>>>P4  1.5GHZ   536    497
>>>AMD 1.33GHZ  539    759
>>>
>>>For Crafty the AMD was best then the P3 followed by the P4.  However
>>>for other programs the P4 was superior (thus the Peak overall improvement).
>>>
>>>However, the P4 was better for the TSCP chess programs:
>>>
>>>Ref: http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~kerrigat/bench/
>>>                  TSCP
>>>                  MIPS Benchmark
>>>Pentium 4/1700    1891
>>>Pentium 4/1500    1749
>>>Athlon/1200       1338
>>>Pentium III/1000  1168
>>>
>>>As I read this data for the two programs, it depends on the chess
>>>program and other factors (compiler options, design, ...).
>>>
>>>How do you read this?
>>>
>>>Any other thoughts/reasons for the descrepancy?
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>Chris Carson
>>
>>The P4 has a long pipe.  And then there is the RDRAM problem.  Both hurt
>>Crafty because the eval has so many if then else type comparisons.  I've
>>seen the same sort of performance differences in every case it has been
>>tried.
>
>There is a way simpler explanation besides all those problems.
>Biggest difference between TSCP and crafty is that TSCP fits within the
>L1 trace cache of ONLY 8192 instructions
>
>If a program falls outside then it gets dicked, to use an understatement.
>
>Of course the other factors are also very relevant, but that's all peanut
>details compared to this.

GCC also does not fit into L1 I-cache of P4. But it's almost 2 times faster on
1.5GHz P4 than on 1.33GHz Athlon.

Eugene



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