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Subject: Re: Support 4 single chip chess v Kramnik

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 14:52:18 04/20/01

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On April 20, 2001 at 16:39:06, Chessfun wrote:

>No actually he diverted to that in;
>http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?164926 it wasn't how it started.
>It started with his distributor stacking the deck. Whether that was what he
>implied at that point is something else. These statements are like what your
>doing making the same accusations without evidence.

What does stacking the decks mean? It means getting an advantage with unfair
methods. In this case making sure that ChessBase have an unfair advantage. The
most obvious way to achieve that is fiddling with the selection. Either directly
or indirectly.

The direct way is by influencing Bertil, Enrique or both. Bob's argument as I
understand it, is that their selection is so far off the mark compared to "real"
experts that it isn't impossible.

The indirect way could be BGN telling Bertil to consider commercial programs
only and keep it a secret as you suggest. And since it's likely that Millennium
will withdraw given the previous negotiations, ChessBase is left standing.

So stacking the deck starts and ends with the selection procedure as mentioned
by Bob.

>Again accusations without evidence.
>You should read Amir's post again contrary to what you previously wrote
>he at no point said we negoatiated after Shredder was out. Whether you
>took it to mean that is something else.

"We all got the same draft agreement at the same time, and more or less saw the
same problems in the terms (I think I saw some you missed), but, instead of
sending an angry "I'm out!" letter like Ossi Weiner, we negotiated."

I interpret that Amir Ban knows that Shredder is out at the point of
negotiation, either before or during. Even that it's in form of a letter. Well,
that could be ironic remark.

>Exactly speculation...

Well, it's like Jeopardy with really though answers. But we're getting there.

>But as stated above Amir's letter don't say they negotiated after Shredder
>left. I took it before at face value when you wrote it.

They knew that Millennium was either "out" or never "in" :-).

>Again you don't know this either, just more speculation.

According to Amir ban, Millennium didn't negotiate, so they weren't in.

>From Reading Amir's letter I quote. "and more or less saw the
>same problems in the terms". How do you know what terms made them
>withdraw?.

SMK mentioned all the reasons for withdrawing. One of them was the qualification
tournament itself. That is a difficult one to remove.

>If they Junior and Shredder saw the same problems in
>the terms then you could also speculate that Shredder did consider
>playing.

No, you can't.

Mogens.



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