Author: Bertil Eklund
Date: 15:26:48 04/20/01
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On April 20, 2001 at 17:52:18, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On April 20, 2001 at 16:39:06, Chessfun wrote: > >>No actually he diverted to that in; >>http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?164926 it wasn't how it started. >>It started with his distributor stacking the deck. Whether that was what he >>implied at that point is something else. These statements are like what your >>doing making the same accusations without evidence. > >What does stacking the decks mean? It means getting an advantage with unfair >methods. In this case making sure that ChessBase have an unfair advantage. The >most obvious way to achieve that is fiddling with the selection. Either directly >or indirectly. > >The direct way is by influencing Bertil, Enrique or both. Bob's argument as I >understand it, is that their selection is so far off the mark compared to "real" >experts that it isn't impossible. > >The indirect way could be BGN telling Bertil to consider commercial programs >only and keep it a secret as you suggest. And since it's likely that Millennium >will withdraw given the previous negotiations, ChessBase is left standing. > >So stacking the deck starts and ends with the selection procedure as mentioned >by Bob. > >>Again accusations without evidence. >>You should read Amir's post again contrary to what you previously wrote >>he at no point said we negoatiated after Shredder was out. Whether you >>took it to mean that is something else. > >"We all got the same draft agreement at the same time, and more or less saw the >same problems in the terms (I think I saw some you missed), but, instead of >sending an angry "I'm out!" letter like Ossi Weiner, we negotiated." > >I interpret that Amir Ban knows that Shredder is out at the point of >negotiation, either before or during. Even that it's in form of a letter. Well, >that could be ironic remark. > >>Exactly speculation... > >Well, it's like Jeopardy with really though answers. But we're getting there. > >>But as stated above Amir's letter don't say they negotiated after Shredder >>left. I took it before at face value when you wrote it. > >They knew that Millennium was either "out" or never "in" :-). > >>Again you don't know this either, just more speculation. > >According to Amir ban, Millennium didn't negotiate, so they weren't in. > >>From Reading Amir's letter I quote. "and more or less saw the >>same problems in the terms". How do you know what terms made them >>withdraw?. > >SMK mentioned all the reasons for withdrawing. One of them was the qualification >tournament itself. That is a difficult one to remove. > >>If they Junior and Shredder saw the same problems in >>the terms then you could also speculate that Shredder did consider >>playing. > >No, you can't. > >Mogens.
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