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Subject: Re: Hatred and its consequences

Author: Duncan Stanley

Date: 03:34:42 04/22/01

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On April 21, 2001 at 22:35:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 21, 2001 at 10:34:34, Duncan Stanley wrote:
>
>>On April 21, 2001 at 09:47:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 20, 2001 at 15:10:29, Amir Ban wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, shame on you for a dreadful title.
>>>>
>>>>To the point: Shredder is as far as I am concerned still comp world champion,
>>>>whether or not he plays the qualifiers, and if he plays, whether or not he wins.
>>>>That being said, and at the risk of appearing dense, what does it have to do
>>>>with it ?
>>>>
>>>>It's not even clear why he's not playing. The news that his objections are being
>>>>addressed were ignored, if not by him then certainly by this forum.
>>>>
>>>>This newsgroup is crazy.
>>>>
>>>>Amir
>>>
>>>
>>>I think "greed" _is_ the issue.  Otherwise I can't imagine why program
>>>authors would not simply say "Hey, Shredder holds both the WMCCC and WCCC
>>>titles.  It certainly has earned the right to challenge/play Kramnik."
>>>
>>
>>The organisers can do exactly whatever they want when it comes to finding a
>>challenger.
>>
>>They can call the challenge match by anything they want, and they are not
>>calling it a "World Championship", although that would be quite legal to do so.
>>
>
>
>Actually it would not be legal to do so.

Absolute nonsense.

> At least in the world of Computer
>Chess, ICCA holds the rights to the two titles in question.

Apart from the very strong argument that "World Computer Chess Championship" is
far too open an expression to be able to hold rights to, and I doubt anyone
would risk a legal case to defend it; it is a very simple matter to change the
text and keep the meaning - quite legally.

How about "World Open Computer Chess Championship" or "World Chess Computer
Championship" or "World Championship for Computer Chess Machines" or anything
you like.

Nobody can stop anyone from organising a tournament and calling it some
'sensible' name. Try it in your basement with autoplayers and no permission even
from the authors - let's call it "World Chess Computer Challenge Championshop",
press release it and announce the winner very loudly.

Who is damaged? What are the quantity of the damages? In which court will the
case be heard? Who would introduce the case?

You can argue as much as you like re. morality, but legally you're on stony
ground.



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