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Subject: Re: Sheep

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 15:42:20 04/04/98

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On April 04, 1998 at 15:57:39, Moritz Berger wrote:

>If the SSDF received the commercial PowerBook CD with 8 million
>positions, does anybody feel like me that Thorsten's claim is
>superficial (he doesn't have the PowerBook CD and lost his ability to
>read or would have otherwise read the official statement from ChessBase
>in his pet magazine Europa Rochade 04/98

Pet magazine ??? What is this ?
I don't understand this word construction. I though Europa Rochade is
about
chess and has computerchess parts in it...

>that the SSDF didn't even use
>the PowerBook for most of the games but the default Fritz book on the
>plain vanilla standard commercial Fritz CD!)?

This does not make the results they get with it easier to believe, even
more unbelievable.

>Thorsten, unless you have anything *new* to contribute to this
>discussion, I propose we all shut up about it (at least on the level of
>"not believing" 500-1000 games). This is not Kindergarten.

Right.
What do they do in sweden ?
They use a special not published autoplayer driver for a special not
published program that comes with a special not defined opening book
(who knows which book was used ?!) ? I remember times they throwed out
the Schaetzle + Bsteh Turbokit BECAUSE IT WAS (as they called it ) not
commercially available ! In fact it was always available . the only
problem was that the swedish guys were unable to pay the money for these
kits.

Whatever -

Fritz5 was released in september last year or so.
In november there was the championship in Paris. The games and the
result of Fritz5 were not very good. ChessBase had to come out with a
special advertising gag to push the product.
It took many months to generate enough autoplayer-games for them to have
the right program to send to the ssdf-guys. But - they did it.
Good job, good and clever done.
And important for them.
But - in the end it will turn into a total loss of credibility. Thats my
opinoin of it.
SSDF list and Fritz5 have done a very risky effort.
I am not the only guy believing that there is something wrong.
You can cruxify me, but you will not stop the ones coming after
me...:-))

>
>Moritz

Would you please repeat your statements HOW impressive fritz5 wins
against CSTal that I can use your statements against you ?
I mean: i will show by data that you are wrong and that you somehow
posted wrong results for whatever reasons or with whatever misusing or
misoperating of programs and I would like to see it again, as I will
call it a false statement
in 2 months after I have significant data.

This would be nice Moritz.




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