Author: Uri Blass
Date: 23:43:23 04/22/01
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On April 23, 2001 at 02:17:26, Tanya Deborah wrote: >On April 22, 2001 at 12:29:34, Uri Blass wrote: > >>Tiger14(depth 3)-Deep Fritz(depth 3) 16.5-3.5 >>Tiger14(depth 4)-Deep Fritz(depth 4) 7.5-12.5 >>Tiger14(depth 5)-Deep Fritz(depth 5) 13-7 >>Tiger14(depth 6)-Deep Fritz(depth 6) 14-6 >>Tiger14(depth 7)-Deep Fritz(depth 7) 13.5-6.5 >>Tiger14(depth 8)-Deep Fritz(depth 8) 10.5-9.5 >>Tiger14(depth 9)-Deep Fritz(depth 9) 14-6 >>Tiger14(depth 10)-Deep Fritz(depth 10) 9.5-10.5 >> >>Tiger14(depth 4)-Deep Fritz(depth 3) 17.5-2.5 >>Tiger14(depth 5)-Deep Fritz(depth 4) 19-1 >>Tiger14(depth 6)-Deep Fritz(depth 5) 18-2 >>Tiger14(depth 7)-Deep Fritz(depth 6) 15-5 >> >>Tiger14(depth 3)-Deep Fritz(depth 4) 6-14 >> >>Tiger14(depth 4)-Deep Fritz(depth 5) 8-12(this result should be 12.5-7.5 but >>deep fritz failed to mate because of having only part of the tablebases and the >>engines agreed to a draw in a position that the evaluation was mate against >>tiger). >> >>Tiger14(depth 5)-Deep Fritz(depth 6) 7-13 >>Tiger14(depth 6)-Deep Fritz(depth 7) 8-12 >>Tiger14(depth 7)-Deep Fritz(depth 8) 7-13 >> >>The advantage of one ply seems to be very significant in the nunn match and you >>can see that the side that searched deeper won in all the matches. >> >>Deep Fritz at depth X seems to be 100 about elo better than Tiger at depth X-1 >>when Tiger14 at depth X seems to be more than 200 elo better than Tiger14. >> >>It means that at small depthes 1 ply is probably worth at least 150 elo rating >>for the nunn match. >>There is of course a significant statistical error and we need more games. >> >>Uri > >Very interesting Uri! Here are more results Tiger14(depth 8)-Deep Fritz(depth 7) 14-6 Deep Fritz(depth 9)-Tiger14(depth 8) 12.5-7.5 Tiger14(depth 9)-Deep Fritz(depth 8) 8.5-1.5(this match was not finished because I stopped it in the middle) > >But how did you make that Fritz move when it is on depth4 or 5 ?? >I believe that many of this games (at depth 3,4,or5) take only a few seconds. >Is this right? Correct games at these depthes takes only few seconds so I could finish the nunn match at small depthes in few minutes. I have some more results at small depthes(this time of Gambittiger2 against Deep Fritz Gambit2(depth 3)-Deep Fritz(depth 3) 8.5-11.5 Gambit2(depth 4)-Deep Fritz(depth 4) 10.5-9.5 Gambit2(depth 5)-Deep Fritz(depth 5) 13-7 Gambit2(depth 6)-Deep Fritz(depth 6) 12-8 Gambit2(depth 3)-Deep Fritz(depth 4) 4.5-15.5 Gambit2(depth 4)-Deep Fritz(depth 3) 16.5-3.5 Gambit2(depth 4)-Deep Fritz(depth 5) 9.5-10.5 Gambit2(depth 5)-Deep Fritz(depth 4) 17-3 You can see that the Deeper searcher at shallow depthes is always winning the match if you use tiger and fritz. > >If the program using a 8x procesor machine against Kramnink, see one ply more >than the normal fast machine, how strong will be ?? in elo?? I do not know. I believe in diminishing return and the results seem to suggest diminishing return but I need more games to prove it stattistically. Uri > >Tanya.
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