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Subject: Re: What is the public's opinion about the result of a match between DB and

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:03:17 04/24/01

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On April 24, 2001 at 05:04:05, David Blackman wrote:

>On April 24, 2001 at 03:47:15, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>the best software that is not IBM.
>>
>>Suppose there is a match of 20 games at tournament time control
>>
>>I am interested to know how many people expect 20-0 for IBM
>>How many people expect 19.5-.5?....
>>
>>If IBM expect to do better result then the average result that the public expect
>>then they can earn something from playing a match of 20 games with Deep Blue.
>>
>>I believe that a part of the public who read the claim that kasparov played like
>>an IM are not going to expect good result for IBM.
>>
>>Uri
>
>The general public wouldn't have a clue.
>
>The semi-computer-chess-literate public doesn't have much of a clue. Very
>few have the chess skill to look at games by Deep Blue and other computers
>and see which is best, even if they use computers to help them analyse. And
>the last head-to-head public games between Deep Blue and micro-computers were
>a long time ago, against programs and hardware that were weaker than current
>versions.
>
>I think asking people who know a little bit about computer chess, you will get
>answers all the way from 0-20 up to 20-0, mostly selected at random.
>
>Now for my very own random guess at a score:
>
>If Deeper Blue was run in the trim that played Kasparov in the last match, i
>expect a result around 14-6, because that version was heavily tuned for playing
>against Kasparov, and would play moves that will get you into trouble against
>Fritz and friends.
>
>With a bit of retuning for playing against computers, i think the result would
>improve to 17-3 or better against anything except Shredder, or even against the
>Shredder you buy off the shelf. 19.5 - 0.5 is even possible, but not a
>certainty. There are just too many things can lose you a half point, or even a
>whole point, in a match that long.
>
>Against a Shredder tuned up specially for the match, and operated by its author,
>all bets are off. Shredder would be totally outgunned in every way, but when it
>comes to big events, it really has some kind of "sense of occasion". I don't
>know what it does that is special, but its history of winning big events is just
>awesome. So a result would be hard to pick.


Nice to see some sound reasoning now and then.  2-18 and 8-12 are just
incredible statements for anyone to make.  Just like predicting Kasparov
would lose 18-2 to somebody...



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