Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:03:17 04/24/01
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On April 24, 2001 at 05:04:05, David Blackman wrote: >On April 24, 2001 at 03:47:15, Uri Blass wrote: > >>the best software that is not IBM. >> >>Suppose there is a match of 20 games at tournament time control >> >>I am interested to know how many people expect 20-0 for IBM >>How many people expect 19.5-.5?.... >> >>If IBM expect to do better result then the average result that the public expect >>then they can earn something from playing a match of 20 games with Deep Blue. >> >>I believe that a part of the public who read the claim that kasparov played like >>an IM are not going to expect good result for IBM. >> >>Uri > >The general public wouldn't have a clue. > >The semi-computer-chess-literate public doesn't have much of a clue. Very >few have the chess skill to look at games by Deep Blue and other computers >and see which is best, even if they use computers to help them analyse. And >the last head-to-head public games between Deep Blue and micro-computers were >a long time ago, against programs and hardware that were weaker than current >versions. > >I think asking people who know a little bit about computer chess, you will get >answers all the way from 0-20 up to 20-0, mostly selected at random. > >Now for my very own random guess at a score: > >If Deeper Blue was run in the trim that played Kasparov in the last match, i >expect a result around 14-6, because that version was heavily tuned for playing >against Kasparov, and would play moves that will get you into trouble against >Fritz and friends. > >With a bit of retuning for playing against computers, i think the result would >improve to 17-3 or better against anything except Shredder, or even against the >Shredder you buy off the shelf. 19.5 - 0.5 is even possible, but not a >certainty. There are just too many things can lose you a half point, or even a >whole point, in a match that long. > >Against a Shredder tuned up specially for the match, and operated by its author, >all bets are off. Shredder would be totally outgunned in every way, but when it >comes to big events, it really has some kind of "sense of occasion". I don't >know what it does that is special, but its history of winning big events is just >awesome. So a result would be hard to pick. Nice to see some sound reasoning now and then. 2-18 and 8-12 are just incredible statements for anyone to make. Just like predicting Kasparov would lose 18-2 to somebody...
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