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Subject: Re: Apple G4 CUBE

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:59:41 04/24/01

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On April 24, 2001 at 11:22:28, Will Singleton wrote:

>On April 24, 2001 at 10:31:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>
>>So on paper the g4 can be at most 25% faster as K7, despite that
>>it has smaller caches!
>
>The tests that were run comparing TSCP performance on many cpus showed that
>clock speed was a good measure of performance when comparing the G4 and the
>Athlon.  So currently, the best Athlon goes about 2x the best G4.
>
>>
>>Now a dual G4 is clocked at most at 533Mhz, and i cannot do a THING with
>>those 128 bits registers for the velocity engine.
>>
>
>Why not?  Is it because you use 32-bit words, and some redesign would be
>necessary?  Have you tried it?
>
>Will

If i spend 2 years of programming assembly to take advantage of it
for example for my hashing, then it's outdated in advance!

Also it's obvious AMDs get clocked higher and higher, so do intel processors.
follow up of g4 it is very doubtful
  a) whether the velocity engine is still alive
  b) whether apple can get it's follow up cpu's clocked near AMD/INTEL speeds.

It seems all manufacturers recently lost the battle versus AMD/INTEL when
talking about speed of cpu.

In 1997 the 21164 was clocked 633Mhz, overclocked at world champs to
767Mhz even (overclocking here is not relevant). Now it's clocked 833 or 866Mhz
for the 21264.

Though a much better cpu, the 21264 doesn't even clock the double speed of
the 21164!

intel/amd all clock way above 1.3 Ghz now.
You can buy a P4 of 1.7Ghz now. and you can buy a 1.33Ghz K7 now.

Both don't require liquid cooling to get clocked at that speed!

To get a 21264 clocked to just 1 Ghz you need liquid cooling at least
and you don't get garantuee from alpha probably!!

So wasting 2 years of rewriting my program to assembly for the G4,
NO THANKS!

No thanks either to convert it 80x86 assembly!

I prefer to keep it ansi-C with a few function calls which are necessary
to implement SMP on each machine...

Best regards,
Vincent



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