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Subject: Re: chris account again deleted

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 16:08:44 04/24/01

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On April 24, 2001 at 13:31:15, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On April 24, 2001 at 02:28:50, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On April 24, 2001 at 01:06:52, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>>>He said they'ld kill me.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>>Welcome back in the first place. It would be nice that one of the moderators
>>>>once and for all put an end to the ban of your name. Maybe we then can all
>>>>make a fresh new start again.
>>>>
>>>>Personally I have never seen you as an outsider.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>how can chris answer to your question when his account is again deleted.
>>>
>>>oh man.
>>>
>>>a kindergarden.
>>
>>
>>Thorsten,
>>
>>If you read my posting then you will see I was looking for a solution and
>>not for counter arguments. Of course it takes two to tango if you want a
>>solution.
>>
>>I have no idea about the current status of Chris account wether it is blocked
>>or not, but for a new start it does not matter. This whole case is something
>>that goes back to 1996/1997 and it is time to stop it.
>>
>>So my suggestion is, no discussions with respect to content, just give Chris
>>what he wants and then it is up to him if takes the opportunity and post
>>under his real name.
>>
>>Ed
>
>I think that Chris could contribute if that's what he was interested in doing,
>but he's not.  He's here for sport, and the sport involves hurting people.
>
>Last year there was a Chris eruption and it wasn't taken care of very quickly,
>and I complained to the moderators about it.  "Why is he allowed to post if he's
>banned?" was my argument.  This time, when it became apparent that he was here,
>I needed to be consistent with that position.
>
>Chris was allowed to post under his own name during the time of Tom.  He was
>here for a bit, but it wasn't any fun for him, so he made some derisive comment
>about the quality of the posts here, and posted his name and password, which
>presumably caused the moderators to have to shut the account down before someone
>else got into it.

That is something that is still unclear to me. I remember Chris posted his
username and password when he in 1996/1997 left CCC in anger. My question is
or this happened a second time or not.


>I don't think he wants to post under his own name.  I think he prefers things to
>be the way they are now.  He gets to behave very naturally (for him) while
>telling everyone how oppressed he is.


Chris complaints about the ban on his name. When you remove the ban on his
name then a) he can not complain about that anymore and b) he is obliged to
post under his real name as otherwise why should one complain?

If you think Chris does this on purpose because he likes to keep posting
under faked names you even have a 2-win situation:

1) Argument of the ban is solved (no more "I am banned" postings).

2) The obligation to post under his real name only (like everybosy else).

However if it is true Chris has posted his username and password twice that
would make things a bit more difficult.


>The guy is a malevolent pain in the ass, and if he's allowed to post here within
>the next six months, under his own name or under a pseudonym, it will be either
>without my knowledge or over my objection.
>
>I mean you no offense at all, but if you would like to rehabilitate him, I
>suggest that you accept my nomination next time, win the election (which you
>would do easily), and try this program early in your term, so you are the one
>who has to deal with the disaster.

Yes I know your opinion I should run the gauntlet once too, but that is not
the point now. Chris contributes, so you have to deal with it anyway.

In the meantime (and who knows) his anger of the time for the ban is over
and he just wants to participate again under the CCC rules and under his
own name and not being faced with the ban on his name way back in 1996/1997
as if all these things still exist.

I would say give Chris the benefit of the doubt. After all we have clear
rules no?

Ed



>bruce



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