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Subject: Re: chris account again deleted

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 19:43:37 04/24/01

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On April 24, 2001 at 19:08:44, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On April 24, 2001 at 13:31:15, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>>Chris was allowed to post under his own name during the time of Tom.  He was
>>here for a bit, but it wasn't any fun for him, so he made some derisive comment
>>about the quality of the posts here, and posted his name and password, which
>>presumably caused the moderators to have to shut the account down before someone
>>else got into it.
>
>That is something that is still unclear to me. I remember Chris posted his
>username and password when he in 1996/1997 left CCC in anger. My question is
>or this happened a second time or not.

This happened a second time, approximately one year ago.  You missed him,
because he didn't post much.  Eventually he wrote a post complaining about the
quality of the membership of CCC and included his password.

>>I don't think he wants to post under his own name.  I think he prefers things to
>>be the way they are now.  He gets to behave very naturally (for him) while
>>telling everyone how oppressed he is.
>
>
>Chris complaints about the ban on his name. When you remove the ban on his
>name then a) he can not complain about that anymore and b) he is obliged to
>post under his real name as otherwise why should one complain?

According to Tim, there is no name field restriction.  But if he comes back
under his real name I will immediately suggest that the account be suspended.

>If you think Chris does this on purpose because he likes to keep posting
>under faked names you even have a 2-win situation:
>
>1) Argument of the ban is solved (no more "I am banned" postings).
>
>2) The obligation to post under his real name only (like everybosy else).
>
>However if it is true Chris has posted his username and password twice that
>would make things a bit more difficult.

He did it twice.

>>The guy is a malevolent pain in the ass, and if he's allowed to post here within
>>the next six months, under his own name or under a pseudonym, it will be either
>>without my knowledge or over my objection.
>>
>>I mean you no offense at all, but if you would like to rehabilitate him, I
>>suggest that you accept my nomination next time, win the election (which you
>>would do easily), and try this program early in your term, so you are the one
>>who has to deal with the disaster.
>
>Yes I know your opinion I should run the gauntlet once too, but that is not
>the point now. Chris contributes, so you have to deal with it anyway.
>
>In the meantime (and who knows) his anger of the time for the ban is over
>and he just wants to participate again under the CCC rules and under his
>own name and not being faced with the ban on his name way back in 1996/1997
>as if all these things still exist.
>
>I would say give Chris the benefit of the doubt. After all we have clear
>rules no?

At one point I thought he'd been treated unfairly, and I was willing to get into
fights with various people in order to advance this contention.  But he got his
second chance in the era of Tom, and got bored and threw it away almost
immediately.

This should make it very clear to anyone that he places little value on the
right to post under his own name, in accordance with the charter.

If someone else wants to mess with him, they are welcome to campaign on that
platform next time.

bruce

>
>Ed
>
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>
>>bruce



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