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Subject: Re: Does the world champ need anti comp play????

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 02:12:18 04/25/01

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On April 25, 2001 at 04:57:00, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On April 25, 2001 at 02:42:16, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Here is a little interview about * Kramnik-Junior 6 game * in the past Dortmund
>>GM tournament in where Kramnik beat Junior in a very easy way.
>>
>>Please read this :
>>
>>
>>ChessBase: Did you prepare for today’s game?
>>
>>Kramnik: Yes, it was generally my plan to get the computer into time trouble so
>>it would blunder something...
>>
>>CB: And seriously?
>>Kramnik: Okay, I played some training games with Fritz, and I tried all kinds of
>>setups, because to go for the main lines against the computer makes no sense at
>>all – you simply forget something and the computer never does this at all. That
>>is why you have to find an interesting setup where the computer can go wrong. I
>>tried several different things and finally decided that this setup is the best:
>>Stonewall, 1.d4 d5 2.e3 and then the computer always plays 2...Nf6 and after
>>3.Bd3 it is very good that the computer plays 3...e6. It is okay but it gives
>>you very pleasant type of play against the computer. Then you go 4.f4 and
>>finally you get what you want. I tried several setups, as I already mentioned,
>>but in this setup the computer was doing extremely badly. In one training game I
>>mated the computer very similar to this, even faster. I think in 25 moves.
>>
>>
>>CB: So actually you got what you wanted in the first four moves.
>>
>>Kramnik: That’s not the end of the story. I didn’t get any advantage out of the
>>opening, maybe my position was even slightly worse, but I was happy with it,
>>because it is exactly the position you need to get against the computer. The
>>objective evaluation doesn’t really matter so much. I expected the computer to
>>go wrong at some point and it did so. 13...g6 and 15...Nxd2 were very bad. But
>>it was very natural. In fact when I was backstage during the game I mentioned to
>>Piket that I think the computer will play Nxd2 at some point, because this is an
>>aweful positional move. And finally in two or three move the computer took on
>>d2. I simply understand the mentality of the computer and that is why I am so
>>successful.
>>
>>********************
>>
>>The Interview is very CLEAR.
>>
>>I think, that the program that play against Kramnik in October will need to have
>>more than a Super fast computer. I think that it will be very good to make a
>>Special opening book to avoid some unknown openings that Kramnik will have
>>prepare for the machine. A new opening book-with some help by GrandMasters to
>>know how to play better against the best Anti computer  technique by Kramnik.
>>
>>Kramnik will know very good the program and he will prepare for a secure win.
>>
>>I wish that the program can show to us a very good chess in October, and also  I
>>will not like to see Kramnik winning almost all the games.
>>
>>Kramnik is very dangerous!!! with a copy of the program three months before!!
>>Please, we need to make something to avoid the disaster!
>>
>>Tanya Deborah.
>
>My dad had discovered that stonewall was good against the computer, about ten
>years ago and showed me how to play that opening three years ago, when i started
>playing chess (i have always known the moves, but never taken the game too
>seriously until 3 yrs ago) and i used to beat up chessmaster 5500 so bad with
>that opening.
>I think that almost all programs have anti stonewall opening books or knowledge
>after the Kramnik beating of Junior, but i think it is strange that Kramnik
>openly admits that he needs anti prog play in order to win and he avoids main
>lines because ^because to go for the main lines against the computer makes no
>sense at all – you simply forget something and the computer never does this at
>all. ^
>
>Regards
>Jonas

Computers too, need to be made anti human.
So much of succesful chess playing seems to be in preparations e.g.
anti-whatever, openings, endgame knowledge, that the actual skill at the board
is a relatively small matter. But the homework is probably also a part of the
skill of a player.
  But it sure puts me off of chess a little.
I used to think that chess tests a persons genius level etc. The fact of that
being less so than I thought makes it easier for me to see a greater value in
other pursuits (than I used to, when I was more addicted to chess).
S.Taylor



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