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Subject: Re: CST only a nice game of c-chess

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 08:36:23 04/07/98

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On April 07, 1998 at 06:55:30, Eric Gallula wrote:

>hi all friends,
>
>Yesterday evening,I tried again on the draw  position  CST/FR5  and
>EFFECTIVELY with the last CST upgrade (cstwhite.exe ) from oxford-soft
>WEB ,CST finds 43 Nf6+ in few seconds with +2.25 in evaluation and after
>2 minutes we have +3.30 !! in evaluation with the following moves:
>
>
>
>43 Nf6+  Bxf6  44 gxf6  Qxf2+  45 Kxf2 Rc7  46 Nxd6 Rb8 47 Rh1+ Kg6
>48 Rg1+ Kf6 49 Ne4+ Ke7  50 d6
>

You could have used the cstwhite /sendinfo
switch to get the mainlines and evaluations and search-depths
automatically printed in an ASCII file on the disk named sendinfo.dat.
Try this feature out. It should help you to log-file what happened
during the search process. You can log-file whole games to save all
important data for further analysis.



>
>Best regards,
>Eric

Eric you are absolutely right. CSTal commercial CD has a repetition bug.
This bug was in the program for a long time.
As I said one Aegon tournament i had 5 draws and 1 win or arround this
and people called it Chess System Draw.
Despite this NAME it played NICE draws, attacking games where it sacced
a piece and suddenly forced a draw by repetition to the surprise of the
opponent who thought he would lose the game.
Of course the versions on the Oxford Server do not have this bug.
In my tournament vs. Fritz5 I do play with the commercial CD-version
because it is sold THIS way in the shops and only people with Internet
are able to download the latest fixes.

So far I have played 14 tournament 40/120 games manually.
8 games were draw.
3 wins for CSTal.
3 wins for Fritz5.

It does not looks like CSTal loses badly against Fritz5.
Nor seems Fritz5 able to get 72 % :-))

Maybe after my match I could try to test how the cstwhite/cstblack
bug-fixed versions play. Or - if you want YOU could test some
games/matches and maybe email me.

My email is mclane@prima.ruhr.de

Thanks.

IMO if you can win a game, it is not important if you make a draw out of
it (due to a bug in the code) or win the game.
You were able to force the opponent in a losing position. Thats enough.
Killing him is not needed. Be a pacifist and call your enemy your friend
and give him a new birthday, make a draw and both you and he is happy.
So this CStal bug is very human, IMO.



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