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Subject: Re: to bob re:hsu's chip

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 19:40:06 04/26/01

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On April 26, 2001 at 22:32:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>Yes, but he misunderstood my statement.  I wasn't talking about a single
>chip at 1B nodes per second.  That was the peak NPS for the deep blue
>hardware.  480 processors * 2.2M nodes per second (average of 2.0 and 2.4)
>per processor.
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>>Well that's easy to answer. The deep blue chips were even in 1997 made
>>from outdated technology. 0.60 microns. Todays standard is 0.18. Note
>>GEOFORCE3 graphics card is already 0.15 microns and real soon we'll
>>see 0.12 or 0.13 whatever getting used.
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>>Suppose Hsu would redesign those 20Mhz and 24Mhz processors (new info
>>to me btw) in 0.12 or 0.13 technology, then a single cpu would be
>>faster as 480 chessprocessors were in 1997. I don't doubt that!
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>I do... I don't think it would run hundreds of times faster.  He _might_
>drive it to 500mhz to 1ghz...  500mhz would be 25 times faster.  1ghz would
>be 50 times faster.  I doubt it could go faster than that..

Well hsu in an official paper thought different. He thinks even with
0.18 technology he can easily get as much NPS with 4 chess processors
where he needed 480 for with deep blue 2.

See IEEE99 last few pages.

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>>I have no idea to how many Mhz it would be clocked but it sure would
>>be way faster!
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>>Compare for example that we can buy machines of 1 Ghz. I remember
>>still a few years ago i had a 20Mhz 386sx (16 bits/32 bits) machine.
>>that's more as a factor 50 difference in speed though in advantage of
>>my nowadays fast Ghz machine :)
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>>>>1)how can one single chip be twice as powerful as the entire deep blue, which
>>>>had hundreds of processors?
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>>>You mis-read what I said.  I was talking about the peak NPS for the full DB2
>>>machine.  1,000 M nodes per second.
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>>>>2)are these chess chips of deep blue and the superchip of hsu good for only
>>>>chess calculations or can it act as a general purpose processor?
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>>>Special chess purpose only...
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>>>>thanks
>>>>
>>>>rajen



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