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Subject: Re: CST only a nice game of c-chess

Author: Rafael Vasquez

Date: 15:03:23 04/07/98

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Thanks for the tip Thorsten, i will use it in my test games.
Regards, Rafael
On April 07, 1998 at 11:36:23, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On April 07, 1998 at 06:55:30, Eric Gallula wrote:
>
>>hi all friends,
>>
>>Yesterday evening,I tried again on the draw  position  CST/FR5  and
>>EFFECTIVELY with the last CST upgrade (cstwhite.exe ) from oxford-soft
>>WEB ,CST finds 43 Nf6+ in few seconds with +2.25 in evaluation and after
>>2 minutes we have +3.30 !! in evaluation with the following moves:
>>
>>
>>
>>43 Nf6+  Bxf6  44 gxf6  Qxf2+  45 Kxf2 Rc7  46 Nxd6 Rb8 47 Rh1+ Kg6
>>48 Rg1+ Kf6 49 Ne4+ Ke7  50 d6
>>
>
>You could have used the cstwhite /sendinfo
>switch to get the mainlines and evaluations and search-depths
>automatically printed in an ASCII file on the disk named sendinfo.dat.
>Try this feature out. It should help you to log-file what happened
>during the search process. You can log-file whole games to save all
>important data for further analysis.
>
>
>
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Eric
>
>Eric you are absolutely right. CSTal commercial CD has a repetition bug.
>This bug was in the program for a long time.
>As I said one Aegon tournament i had 5 draws and 1 win or arround this
>and people called it Chess System Draw.
>Despite this NAME it played NICE draws, attacking games where it sacced
>a piece and suddenly forced a draw by repetition to the surprise of the
>opponent who thought he would lose the game.
>Of course the versions on the Oxford Server do not have this bug.
>In my tournament vs. Fritz5 I do play with the commercial CD-version
>because it is sold THIS way in the shops and only people with Internet
>are able to download the latest fixes.
>
>So far I have played 14 tournament 40/120 games manually.
>8 games were draw.
>3 wins for CSTal.
>3 wins for Fritz5.
>
>It does not looks like CSTal loses badly against Fritz5.
>Nor seems Fritz5 able to get 72 % :-))
>
>Maybe after my match I could try to test how the cstwhite/cstblack
>bug-fixed versions play. Or - if you want YOU could test some
>games/matches and maybe email me.
>
>My email is mclane@prima.ruhr.de
>
>Thanks.
>
>IMO if you can win a game, it is not important if you make a draw out of
>it (due to a bug in the code) or win the game.
>You were able to force the opponent in a losing position. Thats enough.
>Killing him is not needed. Be a pacifist and call your enemy your friend
>and give him a new birthday, make a draw and both you and he is happy.
>So this CStal bug is very human, IMO.



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