Author: Fernando Villegas
Date: 15:21:46 04/07/98
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On April 07, 1998 at 16:03:37, Moritz Berger wrote: >On April 07, 1998 at 15:32:38, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>On the ground of how it handles crucial positions in games that were a >>draw in Paris and the easy and sudden way he cut me in pieces, although >>I get very often good results against other top programs, I have the >>strong an increasing feeling that with the CSTwhite.exe version Chess >>System Tal could have delivered terrible carnage between his competitors >>and got the first prize. If that had been so, then Chris Wittington was >>very unlucky. Of course similar things could be said by other >>programmers, “if only I have been there with this new version...” Yes, >>it’s truth, but even so my feeling is CST was and is something very >>special, but it takes more than usual test to grasp his excellence. >>Do you agree, guys? >>Fernando > >You ought to ask Thorsten Czub about the relative strength of CST >versions. > >I found a pretty bad bug in the Paris engine (December release) myself >but Chris never replied ... > >No, I don't think it would have gotten a 1st price. > >I suggest you just try it against Genius 5 (which scores extremely well >vs. CST) and report back after a few games ... > >Moritz Hi Moritz: Probably CST, any version, is not so good against computer and maybe it would had not won the prize, as you say, but at least a better position than his actual 13º position. The essential point, howewer, is that against humans -that's the purpose of the very existence of programs, isn't it?- CSTAL seems to me a lot more dangerous than, say, genius 5. I don't say I lose less against Genius 5 or that G5 cannot win against human, but seems to win less on the ground of his ideas or initiative than taking advantages of human failure. Even If G5 would get more points against me than CSTAL, -is not the case- I would feel the same: CSTAL is better fitted and so stronger for playing humans even if G5 could get more point in a particular match against CSTAL. Feelings, yes, this is all matter of feelings. Another feeling: I am sure that CSTAL has received a lot less attention that what deserves, lot less than other programs that does not add anything new to our field, just more of the same. by the way, did you play CSTAL wiht the new engine against G5 or with the Paris version? Cheers Fernando
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