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Subject: Re: Why Most Chess Programs play this Redundant Move ?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 22:16:50 04/27/01

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On April 27, 2001 at 17:48:19, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>Take a look at this critical position :http://www.rebel.nl/gt2-web.htm
>
>In the current match Gambit Tiger II vs Web the most critical position has just
>arrived where the majority of the top chess Programs play this Redundant Move
>after 21.Nxc3 ....? This is where most programs fail to play a solid move, and I
>have tested several programs already 21......Rac8?! is redundant because it
>simply waste time, take a look at the possible continuation 22.Ba6? is another
>wasted move, Since 22....Ra8 move the rook back again attacking the bishop and
>finally 23.Bf1 the bishop is looking for a better post.
>
>Please avoid playing this ridiculous move 22.Rac8 and instead of just following
>most of the top programs suggestion make your own reasonable move.
>
>Pichard.

I've looked at this position for some time now and am certain after 21.Nxc3..Rc8
is most likely to be the _only_ move to hold for Black, all else appears to
favour GT 2.0, so dissuading people from this move is probably a mistake and
will more than likely lead the web to a lost position over time.
This is why _all_ top programms want to play this move as it seems necessary to
them, and I think most human players as well. I doubt very much _all_ these top
programms are just making a "redundant" move for the sake of it.
They evaluate it as best and if they _all_ do then there's a good chance it is!

Just my opinion Jorge, I understand your frustration. I too would like to find
better, but I can't.
If GT 2.0 wants to waste time with 22.Ba6 then let it, or set the contempt
factor to avoid a quick draw, as computers usually look for draw lines in
equal positions. Maybe some have tried other methods, but a draw in hand is
the safe way to go, for either man or machine.
Again this is just my opinion. The web must make their own choices.

Regards,
 Terry



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