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Subject: Re: What is the public's opinion about the result of a match between DB and

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:14:40 04/28/01

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On April 27, 2001 at 23:57:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 27, 2001 at 16:53:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>
>>I never got a 0.00 score. I get a near to 0.00 score, so a positional
>>draw and it is *not* a horizon effect.
>
>
>Then I would say your evaluation there is _wrong_.  Just like those evals
>where you have a queen vs 2 rooks and you say you are 2-3 pawns _ahead_
>and then get destroyed in endgames when the rooks control everything.

Note that search lines of diep were around 60 to 70 plies in this
position because of all kind of stupid extensions.

So the evaluation was very good. In fact Seirawan already concluded
very quick it was a draw after he saw the Re8 move and a few other
search lines.

So human evaluation beats still the machine here by a large margin,
as all search lines investigated by Seirawan already are within range
of any chess programs search!

>>
>>DIEP's evaluation is biggest of the world. So obviously i have things inside
>>it which others do not have and probably never will.
>
>
>Biggest isn't always best.  Did you ever consider a career in the World
>Wrestling Federation?  That is the kind of comments they make all the time.
>It is the kind of comment I would _never_ consider making.

Human evaluation is the best model we have so far, so getting a bit
closer to that is not bad.

The knowledge in diep is of course only a very small
subset from what a human knows, assuming that human
plays masterclass chess.

Best regards,
Vincent



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