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Subject: Re: That difficult position again - solution

Author: Ernst Walet

Date: 03:23:43 04/29/01

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On April 28, 2001 at 17:00:40, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:

>Recently I posted a position from a problem -so I found out- by Seletsky from
>1933, -a winning composition- that looks like this:
>
>[D]5q2/n2P1k2/2b5/8/8/3N4/4BK2/6Q1 w - - 0 1
>
>The solution given is:
>
>1.Qg5 Ke6+ 2.Kg1 Kxd7 3.Nc5+ Kc8 4.Ba6+ Kb8 5.Qg3+ Ka8 6.Bb7+ Bxb7 7.Nd7 Qd8 [of
>course no forced mate, but this loses as well: 7...Nb5 8.Nxf8; as well as:
>7...Bd5 8.Nxf8] 8.Qb8+ Qxb8 9.Nb6#
>
>To my amazement few programs found the solution, and to think that chess
>programs are basically so strong in calculating these kinds of tactical
>manoeuvres.
>
>Two engines found the solution: Shredder 5 immediately and Nimzo 8 after some 22
>secs on my PIII@840; I tried Fritz 6, Junior 6, Gandalf 4.32h, Chess Tiger 14,
>RC 3.0, Hiarcs 7.32, Shredder 4, Fritz 5.32 and maybe I've forgotten someone.
>
>Any other *positive* results from other chess programs?
>
>J.

It seems to me that at least Fritz6 has a basic rule implemented not to move the
king to the corner in the endgame, or at least give it a big penalty; it will
not play 2.Kg1.  After making this move the score is increasing rapidly.

Ernst.



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