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Subject: Re: Kramnik interview

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:29:14 04/30/01

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On April 30, 2001 at 10:01:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 30, 2001 at 07:22:24, Alvaro Polo wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>In a recent interview Kramnik states that "We are in a very interesting phase,
>>when the strength of the best GMs and that of the best chess engines run by the
>>best processors are about equal."
>>
>>I know that this point (machines being GM strenght or nor) has been debated
>>again and again and I don't intend to post a troll. I would just like to know if
>>the consensus now among chess programmers is wether Kramnik is right or not. For
>>instance, I remember Bob Hyatt saying that computers are really 2450, etc. But
>>software evolves, CPU power evolves and perhaps now there is agreement that
>>machines are finally GM strenght?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Alvaro Polo
>
>
>I personally think my estimate is still pretty close.  Computers have two
>serious problems:
>
>1.  opening books.  They depend on a human to "play the game" of choosing good
>and bad openings.  This leaves them highly vulnerable to opening preparation and
>traps.  Particularly when you practice against one copy and then play another
>copy which doesn't have the 'learning' from the practice games.
>
>2.  blocked positions and slow build-ups in kingside attacks.  Hardly anyone
>has made progress in fighting either of these problems.  And they _still_ offer
>good chances for a GM that is willing to employ them.

I completely agree here. Add to that that if you can remember which program
you practiced against cq studied very well, that you then also know what
kind of positoinal knowledge the prog doesn't know.

Some progs lack simplistic positional knowledge. Playing progs in general
is not such a cool idea, you need to know indepth knowledge of the program
you play to win from it.

At least with 2285 national i need to know that.





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