Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:33:09 04/30/01
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On April 30, 2001 at 07:57:57, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On April 30, 2001 at 07:26:15, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 30, 2001 at 02:57:16, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On April 30, 2001 at 02:22:20, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>... all top programs with 8 CPUs can play with around ELO 2700 and give good >>>>fight against Kramnik. In any case it will be very interesting match. >>>> >>>>Jouni >>> >>>Very well spoken except that I do no agree that the top programs have ELO 2700. >>>Kurt >> >>Do you think that they have less than it or more than it? >> >>If kramnik does not insist not to get the program then it is clear that he >>believes that chess programs have at least ELO 2700 otherwise he could get more >>respect from winning the match at fair conditions without getting the program. >> >>The only reason for kramnik to agree to accept the program before the match is >>if he believes that the program has good chances to win in fair conditions and I >>do not believe in it if he believes that the rating of the program is less than >>2700. >> >>Uri > >Well, what should I say without conjuring up a storm of other meanings. In my >life I have already played about 450 games [no blitz, rapid 60', 40/40' or >40/120'] without using any anticomputer strategy and even nowadays I (only ELO >1993) get about 30-35 % percent against the fast monsters. So it is always hard >to see and to believe for me that grandmasters seem to have difficulty in >beatening the top programs. There is only one explanation: the top players are >using a too sharp style and of course they always want to win and for that >purpose are willing to risk too much. My experience show that this leads in most >cases to the contrary. By the way, see my shortly commented game in the CCC >against Gambit_Tiger2. Above all I would estimate that the best programs have an >ELO rating of not more than 2500. >Kurt The original premise was wrong... that the reason Kramnik wants a copy is that he is afraid. Back in my karate days, even if I were to be going up against a brown belt, I would _still_ try to find out something about him. Not because I was afraid... But because I wanted to ensure my "win" if at all possible.
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