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Subject: Re: Why is my ChessMaster 5000 so strong?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 19:18:34 04/30/01

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On April 30, 2001 at 20:36:41, stuart taylor wrote:

>On April 29, 2001 at 21:02:54, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On April 29, 2001 at 17:58:00, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On April 29, 2001 at 14:24:55, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 29, 2001 at 11:04:44, Tiago Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I think CM is maybe the best chess engine too! But it is not politically correct
>>>>>to say this here! :)))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On April 29, 2001 at 07:44:50, Douglas Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello, I was wondering why my CM5000 was so strong, I make it play 8 hours a day
>>>>>>and analyze all games. I have played people that have Hiarcs, CM8000, CM7000 and
>>>>>>Fritz 6, but my CM seems to be too strong for them. Could it be my computer???
>>>>>>I run it on a Pentium 3, Windows 98, 128 MB, 15 GB and 667Mhz.
>>>>>>I have played Fritz6 only online, but the guy had a much better computer than
>>>>>>me, he had 955Mhz etc.
>>>>>>Well..I am sure that you are thinking...What the hell is he talking about?!!!
>>>>>>Ok, here is the question.
>>>>>>I needed you to know all that info because I wanted to know if my CM would be
>>>>>>capable of beating Deep Fritz, Shredder 5.0 or any of those strong programs.
>>>>>>I was wondering if maybe we could get togehter at a site, I mean go to a site
>>>>>>and try them out.
>>>>>>You can contact me at  hamilton@fide.org
>>>>>>This is for anyone that reads this message.
>>>>>>Thankyou..Douglas.
>>>>
>>>>Chessmaster in my opinion is one of the strongest engines without: Big book,
>>>>book learning, engame tables and other minor twists.
>>>>It also benefits greatly from faster processor speed.
>>>>I have played ten games manually 40/120 with 5500 against Fritz 6, Junior 6 and
>>>>Deep Fritz (10 games each) because i was under the impression that it might be
>>>>stronger, but even with the advantage of the faster cpu, at that time T-bird
>>>>1.2ghz and chessbase family on T-bird 900mhz, chessmaster lost all the matches
>>>>allthough narrowly, it is some time ago and i nolonger have the games, but i do
>>>>recall the scores to be something like 6.5-3.5 and 7.5-2.5 and i don't remember
>>>>the last score, but it lost that too.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Jonas
>>>
>>>Sorry, which CM? I mean is 5500 and 6000 atleast stronger than 5000 (if 8000
>>>isn't)?
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>I've played _all*_ the CM series and yes CM 6000/7000 is stronger, also CMK8 is
>>stronger, than CM5000.
>>*De Konig the King Programm. CM5500 has the same engine I believe as CM5000.
>>CM6000/7000 also has basically the same engine, but stronger than CM5K and
>>CM55K.
>>CM8000 has the latest King engine, it is probably the strongest, bugs
>>notwithstanding:)
>>
>>But certainly CMKX* is not stronger than the top programms. *All versions.
>>
>>Terry
>
>Terry, Are you saying that CM8000 is the strongest CM, if there would be no
>bugs?
>S.Taylor

Probably, but I don't have enough data to be certain by any means.
6000/7000 is close I'm sure give or take 20-50 pts. elo.

Terry



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