Author: Chessfun
Date: 20:11:05 04/30/01
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On April 30, 2001 at 02:55:13, Christophe Theron wrote: >On April 29, 2001 at 23:58:58, Chessfun wrote: > >>On April 29, 2001 at 13:16:26, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>I said several times I had no plan to release a SMP version of Tiger. I did NOT >>>say I did not have one. I did NOT say I have never worked on SMP. >>> >>>I also said that I could change my mind if the market demands it. Last time I >>>said so was in a live interview on the CSS forum. Go to to this forum, go to the >>>page where the 16 hours interview has been reported, and you will find my words >>>about this. >>> >>>It was BTW before I heard about the Kramnik match. >> >> >>Christophe, >> Following is cut and pasted from the CSS Sprech-Stunde >>this was April 8. >> >>At this time it was known of the upcoming match-up with Kramnik. >>Not in detail but it was known. > > > >The amusing thing about this is that on April 8 Enrique told Ed about the SMP >requirement, but asked Ed to keep the information hidden to me. > >That's exactly what Ed did, because he had agreed to keep the information >secret. >So on April 8 I knew close to nothing about this. > >So you are right, I knew about it, but not in details. I did not know about the >SMP requirement. That was a question I asked you. It was already written and known that it would be SMP otherwise how would I have known it was 8 cpu's? See below. >We have asked Enrique why he asked Ed to keep the SMP information secret, even >for me, and he has not answered. > > > > >>If you had a SMP version why did you not answer this question in >>that manner?. Or assuming secrecy ;-) then contact BGN as suggested >>in a follow-up about having an SMP Tiger. > > > >I had no idea the deadline was so close. We had just learned about it, and I had >not even talked with Ed about it. > >I did not know about the SMP requirement. Actually I knew very little about this >match. At the time, I myself never knew very much, only what was posted here at CCC. The question I asked below, was directly relevant to the tournament being run to decide Kramniks challenger. As it was already known it would be an SMP capable program. >>Sarah Bird: Do you feel that either Tiger 14.0 or Gambit 2.0 running on say a TB >>1.5 Ghz, would compete better against the World Champion than Deep Fritz running >>on 8 processors.? Naturally assuming your answer is yes :-) then what benefit >>would there be to organizers who promote multiple cpu's in using either of your >>programs? >> >>CT: If it is about promoting multiple CPUs, then... Well in short I do not >>understand why Gambit Tiger has not even been considered as a potential >>candidate. >Once again the basic problem is that we have not been asked if we could enter >the match or not. > >It has been assumed that we could not enter the match, and that's all. It would seem a natural assumption. Even now I have seen nothing that makes me think that a Tiger SMP version actually exists. Has been tested and fully ready to play. All I have seen is we did some work on it a while back. To say we can produce one is different than we have one. I cannot see how it could be possible to delay the tournament while Rebel produce an SMP capable version. >The same applies for Nimzo, Hiarcs, Gandalf... Did Enrique ask them if they had >a SMP version that could compete? That statement by implication says Rebel do. Again IMO it makes no sense to ask ever program in say the top ten of the SSDF if they have a SMP version available to compete in a tournament for the right to play Kramnik. Would any say NO I think not. They would all attempt to produce such a thing within a few days ;-) >I know the answer because Enrique told me in email. > >HE DID NOT ASK THEM EITHER. As I said I see no reason he should ask them. >What other evidence do you need that the selection process has been arbitrary? The selection process, actually to me seems pretty natural. >>------------------ >>Sarah Bird: Personally at this point why would Gambit be a candidate? It hasn't >>yet proved to be stronger than any of the main competition. The organizers >>whoever they are, if they are interested in promoting dual processors what is to >>be gained for them with a single cpu playing? >> >>CT: Playing videos with the other CPU? ;) >>------------------ > > > >Please note that it was a joke... I knew it was a joke, but the point is simply either you have an SMP Tiger or you don't. There is no middle ground here for we can produce one, or we will have it in a few days or weeks, or we was working on one and it was kinda almost finished. Either it exists or not. You never answered any of those questions as if one existed, and since I put the questions directly relevant to the Kramnik match and tournament it was clear that SMP was a requirement. Sarah.
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