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Subject: Re: Fritz wins ! [sensible idea for a playoff]

Author: Chessfun

Date: 17:25:12 05/01/01

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On May 01, 2001 at 12:54:38, stuart taylor wrote:

>On May 01, 2001 at 12:18:47, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On May 01, 2001 at 10:40:06, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On May 01, 2001 at 10:33:01, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>>>
>>>>after drawing 12-12 with junior. fritz is now leading in the play-off 2-0. dont
>>>>know what sort of play off this is or how long.in my opinion the 2 prog should
>>>>now be allowed to beat up other progs (and find which one does it more
>>>>effectively) or submit the games to a panel of expert human GMs to get their
>>>>opinion as to which of the 2 plays more human-like!and has better chances of
>>>>winning aginst a human super gm
>>>>
>>>>rajen
>>>
>>>According to Chessbase www.chessbase.com the play-off is over Fritz won.
>>>
>>>Sarah.
>>
>>Did this prove scientifically which is the best program?  Was the luck factor
>>removed?  Is the result more significant than the WCCC?
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>The "play-off" should be (and for crying out loud-could someone PLEASE get them
>to do this, or something similar. What's the point of just the idea?) that both
>DJ and DF should play a short match each with one, or both Tigers. Or a
>different top program, as that would be more entertaining as well as more
>scientific and informative in its testing.
>  Scientifically, as an experiment, it is much too close to decide from. But
>that doesn't necesarily mean that one isn't stronger than the other.
>  So by testing both against Tiger(s) you will see if one clearly handles Tiger
>better than the other. AND you might even see that Tiger itself looks better
>than both.
> If you must, do it with Shredder 5, OR, also with Shredder.
>S.Taylor


The SSDF is currently testing Gambit 2.0 v Deep Fritz.
Deep Fritz I believe is winning 13-11
last post I saw was this;
http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?167133
That is on equal hardware.
But even so what would be the point in your proposal when
the program that plays Kramnik will use 8 cpu's?

Sarah.






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