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Subject: Re: Fritz wins !

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:43:19 05/01/01

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On May 01, 2001 at 17:15:39, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 01, 2001 at 16:42:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 01, 2001 at 15:30:26, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>
>>>On May 01, 2001 at 12:18:47, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 01, 2001 at 10:40:06, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 01, 2001 at 10:33:01, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>after drawing 12-12 with junior. fritz is now leading in the play-off 2-0. dont
>>>>>>know what sort of play off this is or how long.in my opinion the 2 prog should
>>>>>>now be allowed to beat up other progs (and find which one does it more
>>>>>>effectively) or submit the games to a panel of expert human GMs to get their
>>>>>>opinion as to which of the 2 plays more human-like!and has better chances of
>>>>>>winning aginst a human super gm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>rajen
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Chessbase www.chessbase.com the play-off is over Fritz won.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>
>>>>Did this prove scientifically which is the best program?  Was the luck factor
>>>>removed?
>>>
>>>Yes, the element of luck had been removed to a very high degree. At least for
>>>those programs which did not participate in this play-off.
>>>
>>>Uli
>>
>>
>>:)
>>
>>Suppose it had been a 22 game match.  or a 30 game match.  Care to wager who
>>would have won?
>>
>>The closer two programs are, the more it becomes a "coin toss".
>>
>>You get a better idea when a bunch of programs play in a tournament rather than
>>two programs in a basement match.
>
>When a lot of programs play in a tournament opening preperation against specific
>opponents is more important.
>
>The number of games of every program in a tournament is also usually smaller
>than the number of games in a match so I do not think that I can get better idea
>about the question which program is better from a tournament.
>
>Uri


I do.  I believe it harder to beat a group of opponents one game each than
it is to beat a single opponent in a multiple-game match.  From lots of
experience.

Preparation (opening traps) is much harder to do.  You play against a variety
of opponents with a variety of strengths and weaknesses, etc..



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