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Subject: Re: Question of SMP Tiger from CSS

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:21:42 05/02/01

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On May 02, 2001 at 11:43:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 02, 2001 at 02:32:27, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>A SMP version of Tiger exists. Actually existed last year.
>>>A friend of mine went on a long hollyday last year, and instead of leaving his
>>>dual system unused at home, he lent it to me.
>>>I developped a SMP version on top of Chess Tiger 12.2.
>>>But as I already told several times SMP was not a priority for me. So once I had
>>>SMP working, I disabled the code in Tiger's source code. I did not erase it of
>>>course, I just deactivated the relevant parts of code.
>>>Since then, Tiger has evolved on many points, including a different internal
>>>move coding and a different hash table structure.
>>>So now I cannot just reactivate the SMP code. It will not work directly. I need
>>>to reactivate it and adapt it to what has changed in the latest Tiger engines.
>>
>>>It's not a lot of work. The principle of the SMP algorithm does not have to be
>>>rewritten, it's just a matter of adapting the code.
>>
>>>I just asked for a little delay in order to do that and to double check that
>>>everything was working.
>>
>>>You can have your doubts about this SMP version, but after all if I send a SMP
>>>Tiger that crashes in Cadaques, I will be the one to look stupid, not the
>>>organizers of the Kramnik match.
>
>
>
>I'm willing to let a lot of hype slip by, but not _everything_.  It seems you
>are saying you developed an SMP search over a weekend.  I have too much
>experience with parallel search to believe that.  I don't think I could even
>steal my SMP code and move it into something like gnuchess in a single weekend,
>and get it working reliably.
>
>Believe me, this is _not_ a weekend task.  It is not a month task.  It is really
>not a year task.
>
>I would not ever believe there is an SMP Rebel until there is a windows version
>of Rebel.  DOS is _not_ capable of running on an SMP platform itself, much less
>managing threads in any way...  I have a _really_ hard time believing that a
>robust SMP algorithm is a week-end project, unless I am a far worse programmer
>than I believe.

It is also possible that there is another way to do programs parallel that other
did not think about and I do not know what is the speed improvement that
Christophe got from the parallel program.

I understand that patzer used a parallel version of their program and it was not
hard for the programmer to do it parallel.
The speed improvement from 2 processors in that case was 1.2

The interesting question is what is the speed improvement that christophe got
from the parallel tiger12.2

Uri



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