Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: What advantage will Kramnik gain in 3 months?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:42:20 05/02/01

Go up one level in this thread


On May 02, 2001 at 15:06:09, Albert Silver wrote:

>On May 02, 2001 at 13:48:04, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>I would like to hear from the CCC group how much K will
>>gain from having the program for 3 months.  In my view,
>>an advantage yes, but maybe not as much as I thought at
>>first.
>>
>>1.  K may not have the HW for the match.
>>2.  To get a real feel for Fritz 7 he will need the HW and
>>    play 40/2 games.
>
>Yes. No. Getting a powerful dual is well within his means, and you must ask
>yourself, just how much stronger DF would get running on an 8-way box. Will the
>extra speed be so significant against Kramnik? This isn't a comp-comp match
>where a ply's difference is generally decisive.
>
>>3.  K has to prepare for other opponents for matches and
>>    tournaments, I think this will be a higher priority for K.
>>4.  K has other commitments than just matches and tournaments that
>>    will also be a higher priority.
>
>Whoa.... I don't know about that. How many other commitments on his schedule
>have a million dollar purse? The difference between losing and winning is stated
>to be at $400,000. I would be enormously surprised if he dismissed that
>off-hand.
>
>>5.  K may gain a sense of how Fritz should play at any given time,
>>    and may be over confident by match time.
>
>I think that would be to greatly underestimate Kramnik. He isn't Kasparov, and I
>have never heard of him arriving overconfident at any event or match. Kasparov
>certainly suffered from this affliction, but this would be a new one for
>Kramnik.
>
>>
>>None of the above are guaranteed, but in my opinion, lots of games at
>>fast time controls is not the same as 40/2 on the real HW.  Also, my
>>guess is that K will play some each week against what ever version of
>>Fritz he gets, but each will be slightly different (ala play different
>>versions of crafty with slightly different books) and not the same.
>
>I understood he was to get a copy of the engine, not the opening book. I doubt
>very much he will be relying on the opening book to make his preparations. he is
>a master opening strategist as his famous match against Kasaprov showed, and I'm
>sure he will rely on his own judgement in this regard.
>

I will certainly bet that he won't rely on Friedel for opening suggestions or
match strategies...

:)



>>
>>Any thoughts.
>>
>>I do think this gives K a huge advantage, I am just not sure he will
>>have the time to fully utilize it.  Just some thoughts.  ;)
>>
>>My guess now:  K wins 6.5-3.5 with a couple of surprises by both
>>and a couple of blunders by both.  ;)
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>I'd be surprised by a washout myself, but anything can happen. I think he'll
>prepare a washout so that a worst case scenario would yield your predicted
>score. My prediction is 7.5-2.5.  There are two other factors here though. One
>is that he only NEEDS 5.5-4.5 to win. The other is that he knows he'll be under
>the spotlight as BGN is sure to milk the publicity for as much as he can. He may
>feel obligated to try to maximize the score because of the public attention he
>will be receiving. If he does kill the program, I still think that my previous
>prediction will come true: that the general public and media will simply
>conclude that PCs are still a long way from DB.
>
>                                       Albert



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.