Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 04:01:00 05/03/01
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On May 03, 2001 at 06:46:11, Graham Banks wrote: >On May 03, 2001 at 06:26:19, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>You are right: The CM8_Utzinger is much better at longer time controls. >> >>But please again note my already at CCC published objection against playing >>Chessmaster.CMP's against each other: >> >>You will have noticed that I do never play CM8_default vs CM8_Utzinger or >>similar matches between the various CM8_personalities. It is my deepest >>conviction that such trials are more or less a waste of time. At first I have >>made this too but soon recognized that whatever settings are used vs other top >>programs, the supposed best CM8_setting at a given time control had [like >>CM8_default] not much chances against Junior6a or most other top programs. >>Furthermore I have investigated about 150 test positions with six CM8_settings >>[CM8 default, and 5 others, no Chessmaster.CMP already defined in CM8] only to >>see that they all were close together. In any case: with these tests it was >>simply not possible to define the best CM8_setting. And funny, Chessmaster_8000 >>default took second/third place in these tests, the same CM8 which does not >>succeed in the expected manner against other top programs. All these tests and >>trials confirmed to me that it is somewhat useless to find the top CM8_setting >>by let different CM8_personalities playing each other. And frankly spoken, who >>in the chess world is interested in knowing that [let's say as an example] the >>CM8_Titan [nothing against you Graham!] wins most of the time against any other >>Chessmaster 8000 personality. Such a statement does not bring anything if the >>same CM8_personality does not obtain fairly good results [at least 50 % is >>required] against other top programs like ChessTiger14, Crafty, Fritz6, >>GambitTiger2, Gandalf432h, Hiarcs732, Nimzo732, Shredder5 and so on. >> >>Kurt > >I beg to differ regarding the testing of settings against each other. Maybe over >time I might change my opinion! The main thing to take into account when testing >settings against each other is to use a variety of time controls. I would also >like to know the opinions of some of the programmers on this issue, but I guess >that many of them don't bother to read CM8 threads. >Graham. Hi Graham It's true, the programmers dont's bother to read CM8 threads. Kurt
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