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Subject: Re: The Moral of the Story is

Author: Larry Proffer

Date: 08:47:23 05/03/01

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On May 03, 2001 at 11:10:51, Bertil Eklund wrote:

>On May 03, 2001 at 10:45:45, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On May 03, 2001 at 06:37:52, Larry Proffer wrote:
>>
>>>>The so called impartial experts should recommend the "best" programs not all
>>>>programs in the world that in theory can be better. In April I believed that it
>>>>was Fritz, Junior, Shredder and Tiger(s) (alphabtical order). I don't believe it
>>>>is a coincidence that the best programs ARE commercial.
>>>
>>>But this was not a pre-condition as suggested elsewhere by others ....
>>
>>That one was killed a long time ago IIRC, by various reports from the involved
>>parties. The only requirements stated then and since was the SMP capability and
>>naturally significant (superior) strength of the engines involved. Of course you
>>can choose to invent interests of the sponsors and the obviousness of the
>>superior strength of commercial programs. Some have tried that without much
>>success IMO.
>>
>>The real problem is the experts opinion of the strength and availability issue.
>>Forming an opinion on the strongest programs without even a rudimentary
>>investigation is nonsensical by default. AFAIK you do not develop psychic
>>abilities after being involved with computer chess for 25 years. The organizers
>>would have a real explanatory problem if they included the SMP Tiger.
>
>
>It wasn't time to play around and invite 200 programs. Instead you can check the
>results from the SSDF-list, tournaments from a lot of people and so on.
>Therefore it is quite easy to see that the four best (comp-comp) programs are
>Fritz, Junior, Shredder and Tiger(s). Of course you can suggest 100 other ways
>to check the strength, if you had all the money and all the time in the world.
>
>Which programs are better then the above?

But Tiger(s) didn't get selected. Despite your support.

Give me five, so can we see how many
>that agrees with you.

Ferret is supposed to be quite strong, and it did 'sniff' the draw in Kasparov
Deep-Blue. Nothing else did. Including Kasparov.

Crafty is supposed to be quite strong at human-computer. Or so I read.

Both are SMP.

Probably there are some others. Did de Konig make an SMP King, for example?

You didn't need to invite 200 programs. Just send a few emails asking for
information.


>
>Bertil



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