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Subject: Re: Honest?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 11:21:04 05/03/01

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On May 03, 2001 at 14:18:07, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 02, 2001 at 21:37:10, John Smith wrote:
>[snip]
>>>It seems that the ICCA lacks the clout to keep things honest.
>>
>>What do you mean by honest??  Can you please explain.
>
>Done properly, above board, to everyone's satisfaction.
>
>Shredder is the program that deserved to go.  If any program could *DEMONSTRATE*
>that they could beat shredder then that is another story, but since that was not
>done, shredder was the program to beat.  Now, at the last WCCC, shredder faced
>machines with BUCKETS full of CPU's.  Beat them all handily.  So the argument,
>"Shredder would not hold up against these foes because they will have 8 CPU's"
>does not wash.
>
>Now, a major sponsor is a hardware vendor who is coughing up buckets of cash.
>This should be encouraged by all means.
>;)
>
>I see nothing wrong with a requirement that the programs run on multiple CPU's.
>I'm sure the shredder team could cobble up something that works under those
>circumstances.
>
>Now, let's not forget the runner up.  Was it Deep Junior?  Er.. No.  Was is Deep
>Fritz?  Er... No.  It was (IIRC) Ferret.  Why wasn't Ferret invited or even
>mentioned?
>
>If there is any program which is designed from the ground up to run on multiple
>CPU's it is crafty.  This capability is thoroughly debugged, which may (or may
>not) make crafty the strongest competitor on such an architecture.
>
>Here is what should have happened:
>1.  Give everyone one more month to prepare.  It only gives them more time to
>hype it anyway.
>2.  Invite all the multiple CPU competitors, definitely including:
>A.  Deep Shredder
>B.  Ferret
>C.  Deep Junior
>D.  Deep Fritz
>E.  Crafty
>F.  Amy (Amy would have better chances than you think)
>G.  Diep {Thank goodness he did not call it Deep Diep}
>H.  One of Gandalf/Hiarcs/Nimzo {whoever can cobble together the best multiple
>CPU program}
Rats.  Forgot Chess Tiger.  We ought to add in that one too.  Since the proposed
format was Round-Robin, it does not much matter to add a few more and it does
not have to be an even power of 2.

>
>Have them play a round robin tournament at 40/2.  It does not have to cost a
>bazillion dollars in hotels and air-fare.  Let them play over the internet for
>the right to face Kramnik.  These games would help build the tension and hype
>anyway.
>
>I wish someone would get in touch with COMPAQ, because they have the machines
>and the might to do this whole thing right.  And with 64 way SMP, they could put
>together a machine that would be a *real* challenge for any other chess device
>on the planet, including the best humans.
>
>The ICCA is a governing body, but it seems to lack any clout whatsoever.  Too
>bad.



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