Author: Christopher R. Dorr
Date: 13:48:20 05/03/01
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On May 03, 2001 at 00:59:14, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 02, 2001 at 22:43:55, John Dahlem wrote: > >>On May 02, 2001 at 22:05:43, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 02, 2001 at 18:39:24, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>> >>>>Hi Bob: >>>>Probably I missed this, but: it is clearly in the contract that the Fritz K. >>>>will play must be the very same as the one that played DJ? There will be an >>>>engine frozen in a safety box in a bank or in the Pentagon to make sure that >>>>condition? It is not possible that Morsch can add some things and substract >>>>other, forbidden or not? By example, to add a match algorythm to accept or not >>>>draw offers according the history of the match? There will be, if such rule of >>>>"no changes in the engine" exist, a way to to examine the source code? And if >>>>not rule of that sort, how we can know for certain the degree of improvements >>>>Morsch can invent in three long months? >>>>Regards >>>>Fernando >>> >>> >>>I don't know. IE prior to the finish of the 'qualifier' I don't see how rules >>>could have been agreed to since no one knew which program would win. But if the >>>rules say the same version must play Kramnik that played DJ, then I would >>>personally say "shove it" and do something else if I were the programmer(s). >> >> >>As I understand it the rules currently state that the program has to be done by >>July and then shipped to Kramnik, and no changes be made after that. > > >Wouldn't matter to me. I would refuse _any_ such requirement. If he wanted >to download available versions of my program, fine. But I would not let him >see what he would be playing... any more than he would show me _his_ >preparations for the match either... > >This makes little sense... To me, this is much ado about nothing. Even if Kramnik had to settle for Deep Fritz 6.1 instead of DF7, how much will he miss? As Bob has said, it's the positional stuff that the GM cares about; the evaluation functions at the leaves of the tree. No GM in their right mind is going to go head-on into tactics against the box anyway. How much will the positional evaluations change between vesion 6.1 and version 7? Not much generally. If the positional error is big enough to be easily caught, it would be quickly changed. But this isn't the stuff he is looking for. He is looking for the subtle stuff that only a world-class GM can find, and only by deep and serious study. This isn't stuff the programmer will likely think of to work on. Even if the team has a resident GM, will he be as strong in positional understanding as Kramnik? Seeing as there is nobody alive who is, the answer seems to be no. I really don't see him having the production version as being a huge advantage over just having the most recent commercial version. Chris
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