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Subject: Re: Deep Fritz- ChessBase Thought

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 22:47:07 05/03/01

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On May 03, 2001 at 22:49:59, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:

>Dear "ole paranoid Gramps" Lowrance,
>
>ChessBase is an excellent company but like every other business it likes money.
>Deep Fritz and Deep Junior are basically equivalent programs.  ChessBase sells
>both.  Now isn't it good to have Deep Junior as the program that tied Deep Fritz
>but lost in the "Playoffs" to that same program.  By inference, if Deep Fritz
>barely loses to Kramnik you can be sure that ChessBase will "capitalize" on that
>point and claim that Deep Fritz almost won against a world-class GM.  Then it
>will say that Deep Junior tied with Deep Fritz in the earlier contest and that
>those who have Deep Junior should be justly proud.
>
>No harm done.  This contest was always a marketing tool for Fritz and Junior.
>ChessBase still deserves praise as a provider of fine computer chess programs
>and products.

Yes, agreed. I still prefer and respect Shredder's people more.
I buy most of my programs from ChessBase, but I do not feel good about any
program playing this match under the conditions as I understand them. I wish
Everyone, Program authors and distribution people would have taken Shredders
route.

>
>
>Tim "Not so gullible either" Frohlick
>
>
>On May 03, 2001 at 16:58:16, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>
>>Does the looser get rewarded for losing ? If the answer is yes, then I do not
>>believe that Deeps people put up much of a fight to get the match played on even
>>ground in neutral turf. I have huge respect for the Shredder people for their
>>stance.
>>Oh I am certain they realize the unfairness of the specific rules that make this
>>match a sham, but hey the $$$$$$, so we live with it.
>>Here in the Forum most of us care only about fair play and giving the lil
>>silicon beast a fair shake and seeing one heck of a match (which I do not
>>believe is possible with the rules).
>>The media is gonna eat it up and the general public will not hear/understand the
>>unfair playing rules.
>>
>>I have stayed out of this debate because I can not help and my voice has no
>>influence on the match rules.
>>Does any of this make sense or am I just an ole paranoid Gramps. Now should the
>>looser get nothing then my notion has no merrit and I am sorry for troubling
>>you.
>>
>>Wayne



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