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Subject: Re: What do you consider the best positional program (besides Century 3)?

Author: Tony Hedlund

Date: 02:13:34 05/04/01

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On May 04, 2001 at 04:13:42, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On May 04, 2001 at 03:59:15, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>
>>On May 04, 2001 at 03:30:12, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On May 04, 2001 at 03:03:57, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 03, 2001 at 18:41:05, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 03, 2001 at 18:37:08, John Dahlem wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I had for awhile thought HIARCS 7.32 was considered easily the best, but then I
>>>>>>read a summary from Cadaques 2000 and it seemed to be thought HIARCS was even
>>>>>>somewhat dumb positonally. So, what do you think? HIARCS, Shredder 5, Tiger 14,
>>>>>>Junior 6?
>>>>>
>>>>>According to one test suite:
>>>>>http://home.interact.se/~w100107/fentest.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>These are the top ten:
>>>>>AnMon 5.07 AMD K6-2 450
>>>>>SOS AMD K6-2 450
>>>>>Rebel 10b AMD K6-2 450
>>>>>Nimzo 3 P90
>>>>>Rebel Gambit II AMD K6-2 450
>>>>>Rebel Tiger 14 AMD K6-2 450
>>>>>Nimzo 3.5 P90
>>>>>Hiarcs 7.32 AMD K6-2 450
>>>>>Shredder 4 AMD K6-2 450
>>>>>Phalanx XXII AMD K6-2 450
>>>>
>>>>You can also check this test:
>>>>
>>>>http://home.bip.net/gunnar.blomstrand/topplista_64.htm
>>>>
>>>>This test is from the book "Spiel mit - gegen Grossmeister" by Emil Gelenczei.
>>>>64 games which all are judged. 1047 positions in 8 categories were every group
>>>>gets 400 points. The idea is to see which program is best in analysing human
>>>>games. The time is 40/2 3 min/move. The computer is a Celeron 450 with 128 cache
>>>>and 64 MB.
>>>>
>>>> Program 	 	Rating 	Points
>>>>01 Gandalf 4.32f   	2617 	2120
>>>>02 Fritz 5.0 	   	2591 	2099
>>>>03 Gambit Tiger 1	2590 	2098
>>>>04 Fritz 6.0 	   	2585 	2094
>>>>05 Junior 5.0 	   	2571 	2083
>>>>06 Rebel 10 	   	2561 	2075
>>>>07 Nimzo 2000 	   	2560 	2074
>>>>08 Chess Tiger 13  	2540 	2058
>>>>09 Zarkov 5.0 	     	2536 	2055
>>>>10 Genius 6.5 	   	2529 	2049
>>>>
>>>>As you can see, the Rebel/Tiger programs is on both lists.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>Very nice Tony. Can these positions be downloaded?
>>>
>>>Finally something else than tactical positions.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>You can download the first 32 games here:
>>
>>http://home.bip.net/gunnar.blomstrand/64__testen2.htm
>>
>>and the rest here:
>>
>>http://home.bip.net/gunnar.blomstrand/64testenres2.htm
>>
>>Tony
>
>Thanks a lot Tony!
>
>Ed

Thanks Ed! But the credit must go to Gunnar. He is by far the most productive
tester in SSDF. And he put down a lot of time and effort on this 64-test. BTW,
he is also a IM in correspondence chess.

Tony



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