Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:33:57 05/04/01
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On May 04, 2001 at 03:30:12, Ed Schröder wrote: >On May 04, 2001 at 03:03:57, Tony Hedlund wrote: > >>On May 03, 2001 at 18:41:05, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On May 03, 2001 at 18:37:08, John Dahlem wrote: >>> >>>>I had for awhile thought HIARCS 7.32 was considered easily the best, but then I >>>>read a summary from Cadaques 2000 and it seemed to be thought HIARCS was even >>>>somewhat dumb positonally. So, what do you think? HIARCS, Shredder 5, Tiger 14, >>>>Junior 6? >>> >>>According to one test suite: >>>http://home.interact.se/~w100107/fentest.htm >>> >>>These are the top ten: >>>AnMon 5.07 AMD K6-2 450 >>>SOS AMD K6-2 450 >>>Rebel 10b AMD K6-2 450 >>>Nimzo 3 P90 >>>Rebel Gambit II AMD K6-2 450 >>>Rebel Tiger 14 AMD K6-2 450 >>>Nimzo 3.5 P90 >>>Hiarcs 7.32 AMD K6-2 450 >>>Shredder 4 AMD K6-2 450 >>>Phalanx XXII AMD K6-2 450 >> >>You can also check this test: >> >>http://home.bip.net/gunnar.blomstrand/topplista_64.htm >> >>This test is from the book "Spiel mit - gegen Grossmeister" by Emil Gelenczei. >>64 games which all are judged. 1047 positions in 8 categories were every group >>gets 400 points. The idea is to see which program is best in analysing human >>games. The time is 40/2 3 min/move. The computer is a Celeron 450 with 128 cache >>and 64 MB. >> >> Program Rating Points >>01 Gandalf 4.32f 2617 2120 >>02 Fritz 5.0 2591 2099 >>03 Gambit Tiger 1 2590 2098 >>04 Fritz 6.0 2585 2094 >>05 Junior 5.0 2571 2083 >>06 Rebel 10 2561 2075 >>07 Nimzo 2000 2560 2074 >>08 Chess Tiger 13 2540 2058 >>09 Zarkov 5.0 2536 2055 >>10 Genius 6.5 2529 2049 >> >>As you can see, the Rebel/Tiger programs is on both lists. >> >>Tony > >Very nice Tony. Can these positions be downloaded? > >Finally something else than tactical positions. > >Ed The main problem with positional test is the fact that I doubt if the solutions is correct. I think that there should be some proof that the solutions are correct(for example comp-comp games from the positions after the right and comp-comp games from positions after other computer moves). If I see that computer programs perform better after the solution move it may be an evidence that the solution move is correct. I do not trust the impression of humans in a lot of cases. Uri
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