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Subject: Re: One easy mate...

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 14:29:34 05/04/01

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On May 04, 2001 at 15:55:08, Paul wrote:

>On May 04, 2001 at 15:51:07, leonid wrote:
>
>>On May 04, 2001 at 15:35:34, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>On May 04, 2001 at 15:28:48, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 04, 2001 at 15:16:22, Angrim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 04, 2001 at 14:45:27, leonid wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Probably my previous position is too tough, then this (almost the same in
>>>>>>appearance) is very easy to solve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>[D]RnqkqnR1/qBNbNBq1/QqQqQqQ1/BrQqQrB1/8/8/3P4/3K4 w - -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please indicate your result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Leonid.
>>>>>
>>>>>Man thats an ugly looking position :)
>>>>>proved that move e7xd5 wins, 6 turns
>>>>>took 3970678 evals, 107873 expands, 62 second on my Athlon650 using pn^2.
>>>>>
>>>>>I tried this with my "normal" search, and it couldn't search 2 ply deep in
>>>>>1 minute.  the qsearch was totally killing it.
>>>>
>>>>I failed also twice on this position when tryed to put graphics for it. I even
>>>>went to see of your message was not that needy graphics.
>>>>
>>>>Leonid.
>>>>
>>>>>Angrim
>>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>Your second rank is fawlty! It had just a P ... nothing more? Is this the right
>>>one?
>>>
>>
>>Thanks, Paul! Position is flawless. Now I can print it for later reference.
>>
>>Salut,
>>Leonid.
>
>In that case a solution is this following mate in 9:
>
>01:32 WM9 08 Qcxd7+ Qcxd7 Rxb8+ Qxb8 Nc6+ Qd6xc6 Bxf6+ Rxf6 Qgxf6+ Qxf6 Q5xf6+
>Qee7 Qexe7+ Kxc7 Bxb6+ Rxb6 Qaxb6#

Chest agrees, with a slightly different PV:

Qcxd7+ Qcxd7 Rxb8+ Qxb8   Nc6+   Qd6xc6 Bxf6+  Qxf6  Qgxf6+ Rxf6 Q5xf6+ Qee7
Rxf8+  Kxc7 Bxb6+  Rxb6 Qaxb6#

and it found a second key move:

Qexd7+ Qexd7 Rxf8+ Qxf8   Ne6+   Qd6xe6 Bxb6+  Qxb6  Q5xb6+ Rxb6 Qaxb6+ Qcc7
Rxb8+  Kxe7 Bxf6+  Rxf6 Qgxf6#

Maybe this is just symetric, I did not check.
Chest on a K7/600 with 350 MB hash needed 177 seconds (3 mins) for this.

>The other one took too long, so I stopped Pretz, sorry! ;)
>
>ciao,
>Paul

No surprise!  See my other followup: Chest found no mate in 12 in over 2 hours.

Cheers,
Heiner



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