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Subject: Re: duel g4 vs. duel pIII which is faster for chess NT

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 15:36:59 05/05/01

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On May 05, 2001 at 17:51:49, ERIQ wrote:

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dual G4 tops at 533Mhz as far as i can see on homepage.
G4 only runs single cpu 733Mhz.

So whatever they designed. *nothing from 533Mhz* is going
to beat for a normal chessprogram (bitboard programs not
included in that as they profit from the jump from 32 to
64 bits) a machine which is running at 1Ghz.

Note that P3 does 3 instructions a clock at maximum versus G4
can do 4. However the caches of the G4 aren't too impressive,
though very good compared to the 400Mhz sun
and it's branch misprediction penalty probably very bad.

So most optimistic scenario it's 25% faster as a dual coppermine
at 533Mhz. However lucky no coppermine runs that slow. They run
1Ghz easily nowadays.

Note for FPU g4 might be pretty fast for certain applications which
can use complex instructions from the velocity engine.

This is of no use for chessprograms unless you want to program
from now on a year or 2 fulltime in G4 assembly, and i bet by that
time no one remembers the velocity engine anymore and sure a 533 dual
in 2003 is not going to beat a 3Ghz 0.10 micron dual K8 or whatever.

More interesting is the foster cpu which runs dual at 1.7Ghz, though i
expect it to be way slower as a dual 1.33Ghz AMD k7-thunderbird.

Best regards,
Vincent



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