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Subject: Re: Test suite solving: keymove failhi- or resolve times?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:50:50 05/05/01

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On May 05, 2001 at 21:10:06, Paul wrote:

>On May 05, 2001 at 20:46:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 05, 2001 at 19:26:11, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>Ok .. I'm into testsuites now :) ... but what is the proper way to record the
>>>solution times? Do you take the time at which the keymove is found (the final
>>>fail high), or the one when the fail high research has finished and produced a
>>>new pv & score? Because there can be a big difference, eg. when you're at ply 13
>>>the research can take quite some time. Or is this a silly question?
>>
>>It depends on the engine.  The _right_ time is the time after which it would
>>play the right move.  IE for Crafty, if a move fails high at the root and
>>you see the Nxe4!! move displayed, it would play it _right then_ if time
>>ran out...   so the fail-high time is the time to use.
>
>Well ... in my GUI, if a rootmove fails high, the move lights up in green, does
>that count? ;)
>
>But seriously, what do you do when it fails high (after a 'null' window search)
>and the research doesn't? Is the pv from the (previous) bestmove still there or
>is it gone at the moment of the failhigh? My guess is that you only replace the
>bestmove & pv when time runs out or when the failhigh is resolved. I know, I
>should look this up in the archives, must have been asked before!
>
>>If a program won't play the fail-high move without resolving the score, then
>>you have to use the time it needs to actually decide to play the move...
>
>Ok, so I'll have to change to your way to get better solution times.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul


I don't notice fail highs on the null-window search if the re-search fails
low.  It never happened so far as the search goes. The fail high I was talking
about was the search failed high at the root (new best move) which means the
null-window search failed high, and the re-search _also_ failed high.



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