Author: John Merlino
Date: 19:03:00 05/05/01
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On May 05, 2001 at 19:17:29, Vine Smith wrote:
>On May 05, 2001 at 12:52:36, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On May 05, 2001 at 06:20:19, Vine Smith wrote:
>>
>>>On May 04, 2001 at 21:22:16, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 04, 2001 at 18:32:38, Vine Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 04, 2001 at 16:18:52, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 04, 2001 at 16:15:24, Vine Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Giving this program to Kramnik 3 months ahead of time will be to his
>>>>>>>disadvantage. First, he'll waste lots of time figuring out how to get it to work
>>>>>>>reasonably ("This isn't like Fritz at all! Where are the hash table settings?").
>>>>>>>Then, he'll probably make the mistake of opening an analysis window, maybe the
>>>>>>>mentor window too, and base his preparation on the engine running at 1/2 to 1/3
>>>>>>>speed due to the 2 or 3 engines spawned by this process, unbeknownst to him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On the other hand, he'd probably post here with his questions under an assumed
>>>>>>name and John Merlino would solve his problems in a jiffy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wonder if the CM folks are going to do a multiple CPU version?
>>>>>Nah, Kramnik will be too insulted by being left off the "Personalities" list to
>>>>>contact Merlino ("Hmm...Anand, Kasparov...what the? Where am I? Are they saying
>>>>>I don't have any identifiable style?!"). Or he'll give himself away posting new
>>>>>settings for a Kramnik personality.
>>>>>Yeah, Chessmaster SMP -- uses one CPU per window open.
>>>>
>>>>A Kramnik personality is going to be one of the new GM personalities in the next
>>>>version (along with a few other hopefuls, possibly a couple of old-timers such
>>>>as Paulsen and Zukertort).
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>That will be most interesting. Possible descriptive blurb for Kramnik
>>>personality: "Does nothing in particular for first 30-40 moves. Then wins
>>>endgame by force (all 6-man tablebases REQUIRED)". But please tell me it will be
>>>possible to view analysis without incurring a 50% speed penalty -- I spend more
>>>time analyzing than playing. The King engine sometimes comes up with interesting
>>>approaches, and I'd really like to know what it's thinking about.
>>>Regards,
>>>Vine Smith
>>
>>It is very easy to get "infinite analysis" with only one engine operating. Just
>>do this:
>>
>>1) Setup up the position that you want (or go to the proper point in the game)
>>2) Set human vs. human (by pressing CTRL+G and choosing the two buttons that
>>look like human faces)
>>3) Open the Thinking Lines window and select "Chessmaster"
>>
>>That's it.... You can now move forward and backward through the game, or make
>>new moves on the board, and the Thinking Lines window will always reflect the
>>current position.
>>
>>jm
>This is actually what I have done in the past when analyzing with CM8000, but I
>had misunderstood the comments about this issue that appeared in the context of
>the SSDF testing mishap; I thought the first engine never went away under any
>circumstances. Also, because the search speeds reported by CM8000 seemed
>relatively slow compared to other engines, I assumed this was because of a dual
>engine load. All right, I take it all back! (although this reduces your chances
>in a hypothetical CM8000-Kramnik match now)
>Maybe Henry Bird should be included with other 19th century players whose style
>the next version of CM will try to duplicate. But if you can mimic his bizarre
>notions successfully (for instance 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nd4 4.Nxd4 exd4 5.O-O
>h5!? or 1.e4 e6 2.Bb5!?) it will be a revelation.
>Regards,
>Vine Smith
Glad I could clear things up.
Bird IS included in CM8000. But he ALWAYS leads with 1.f4 (Bird's Opening, of
course).
jm
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