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Subject: Re: ATTN : CCC users - 1 Hour CCR Test - A little experiment - help needed

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 22:48:05 05/05/01

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On May 04, 2001 at 18:46:19, Peter Berger wrote:

>Hi there ,
>
>I believe in community experiments .
>
>I'd love to get some more results by other users or chess programmers that can
>afford to spend one hour on a little experiment .
>
>The 1 Hour CCR test by Larry Kaufmann - it is explained in
>http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?167129 - a post by Dana Turnmire
>.
>
>Could you test your favourite or your own program and come back with your result
>and post it here ( ratings calculated with the USCF formula ) ?
>
>This is _no_ scientific experiment . I think the test has some merit - others
>don't - it's just for fun .
>
>Especially results of the so-called "weaker" programs would be very much
>appreciated - and : where's the Chessbase crew ? No Chessbase prog in the top 12
>??? Come on ..
>
>Thanks in advance .
>
>pete
>
>Yace results/ 1 Hour CCR Test/Ranking updated
>
>Yace 0.99.17 on PIII500 :
>
>	15''	30''	1'	2'	Points
>Test 1	Nf3(0)	Nf3(1)	Qb3(1)	Qb3(1)	2
>Test 2	Bc8(1)	e6(0)	Bc8(1)	Qc7(0)	2
>Test 3	Nh6(1)	Nh6(1)	Nh6(1)	Nh6(1)	4
>Test 4	Ne5(0)	Ne5(0)	Rbc1(0)	Rbc1(0)	0
>Test 5	e5(1)	e5(1)	e6(0)	e6(0)	2
>Test 6	Bxc3(1)	Bxc3(1)	Bxc3(1)	Bxc3(1)	4
>Test 7	Rfb8(1)	Rfb8(1)	Rfb8(1)	Rfb8(1)	4
>Test 8	d5(1)	d5(1)	0-0(0)	0-0(0)	2
>Test 9	Nd4(1)	Nd4(1)	Nd4(1)	Nd4(1)	4
>Test 10	a4(1)	a4(1)	a4(1)	a4(1)	4
>Test 11	ef(0)	ef(0)	ef(0)	ef(0)	0
>Test 12	Bxf7(1)	Bxf7(1)	Bxf7(1)	Bxf7(1)	4
>Test 13	Be6(1)	Nc6(1)	Nc6(1)	Nc6(1)	4
>Test 14	f6(1)	f6(1)	f6(1)	f6(1)	4
>Test 15	ef(1)	ef(1)	ef(1)	ef(1)	4
>Test 16	ed(0)	ed(0)	ed(0)	d5(0)	1
>Test 17	d3(1)	Re1(1)	d3(1)	d3(1)	4
>Test 18	Nxc6(0)	Nxc6(0)	Bxf6(1)	Bxf6(1)	2
>Test 19	Bxe6(1)	Bxe6(1)	Bxe6(1)	Bxe6(1)	4
>Test 20	Ndb5(1)	Ndb5(1)	Ndb5(1)	Ndb5(1)	4
>Test 21	de(1)	de(1)	de(1)	de(1)	4
>Test 22	0-0(0)	0-0(0)	0-0(0)	0-0(0)	0
>Test 23	Bxh7(1)	Bxh7(1)	Bxh7(1)	Bxh7(1)	4
>Test 24	Nxe5(1)	Nxe5(1)	Nxe5(1)	Nxe5(1)	4
>Test 25	Nxc6(1)	Nxc6(1)	Nxc6(1)	Nxc6(1)	4

Diep finds all pos except 8: d5, because it dislikes bad bishops
and i have no hope that it finds it before deep blue gets nullmove,
though it's just 0.09 or so difference.

a4 position 10 takes some time to get (13 ply) so prob
doesn't get all points depending upon hardware.

The Rfb8 move also is the victim of doubt. it wants to play it
from like 7 ply and on but then at 11 ply or so it flips
back to bc4 and then next ply rfb8 again etcetera.

Wouldn't be surprised if it takes half an hour before it gets to rest
and plays Rfb8 only without ever again going to bc4 :)

Note all these positions are strategic positions. giving just 30 seconds
to solve strategics things is nonsense.

we're talking about opening tactics. like 12 ply you need *anyway*
usual in opening. Especially that a2-a4 move. it's asking for
trouble with white with as only useful task for a4 to prevent Bb5
getting exchanged. So in order to get awarded for that risk you need
first to calculate that it's tactical possible to do so!

>Total Points :	75/100
>
>Testresult : 2600
>
>Ranking :
>
>1. Comet dev version on K6/450			2664
>2. Shredder 5.0 on PIII500			2616
>3. Rebel Century 3.0 on PIII600			2616
>4. Yace 0.99.17 on PIII500			2600
>5. Gandalf 4.32h on PIII500			2584
>6. Gambit Tiger 2.0 on PIII600			2584
>7. Bringer 1.8 on PIII500			2536
>8. PostModernist dev version on Athlon 1200	2536
>9. Crafty 18.9 on PIII500			2520
>10. Pretz dev version on PII400			2488
>11. Gaviota v0.2.1 on PIII700			2488
>12. Radio Shack 2250 Chess Champion		2248
>
>
>The contenders facing the most difficult positions (CCR 4,5,8,10,11,16 and 22):
>
>Comet dev version on K6/450 solved : CCR 5,8,10,11
>Century 3.0 on PIII600 solved: CCR 5,10,11,16
>Gaviota v0.2.1 on PIII700 solved: CCR 5,10,11,16
>Shredder 5.0 on PIII500 solved : CCR 5,10,11
>Gandalf 4.32h on PIII500 solved: CCR 5,10,11
>Gambit Tiger 2.0 on PIII600 solved : CCR 4,5,10
>Yace 0.99.17 on PIII500 solved : CCR 10,16
>PostModernist dev version on Athlon 1200 solved : CCR 8,10
>Crafty 18.9 on PIII500 solved : CCR 10,16
>Pretz dev version on PII400 solved : CCR 10
>Radio Shack 2250 Chess Champion solved : ??
>Bringer 1.8 on PIII500 solved :
>
>Positions still remaining unsolved :
>
>CCR 22
>
>Thanks to Miguel A. Ballicora, Jeff Lischer, Paul, Ulrich Tuerke, Dana Turnmire
>and Andrew Williams for posting your results !
>
>Cheers.
>
>pete



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