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Subject: Re: Pete: help requested, my data is bad?

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 14:05:56 05/10/01

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On May 10, 2001 at 16:53:28, Brian Kostick wrote:

>On May 10, 2001 at 14:39:57, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>Look at Hiarcs 7.32 result on some monster hardware - it won't find CCR 14 !!!!!
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>pete
>
>
>Pete,
>
>   Thanks if you are taking time to look this over. I noted your comment and the
>listing for Hiacrs 7.32. I just ran it last night and haven't had time to post
>yet. Since my results are different I thought you might have some insight. Also
>I tried clipping the analysis as best as I could at each time.
>
>  The clip analysis is a raw cut/paste, thus a few 'off' symbols. I was running
>under the 23 Jan. Fritz 6 interface with infinite analysis mode. Someone also
>suggested this gives different results than an infinite time control and letting
>the engine run?
>
>  I can understand some differences based on CPU speed, ect... but these are
>more than I can reconcile on my own.  Regards, BK
>
>
>Hiarcs 7.32 on PIII733
>
>        15"  30"   1'   2'
>CCR01    1    1    1    1
>CCR02    1    1    1    0
>CCR03    1    1    1    1
>CCR04    0    0    0    0
>CCR05    1    1    1    1
>CCR06    1    1    1    1
>CCR07    1    0    0    0
>CCR08    0    0    0    0
>CCR09    0    0    0    0
>CCR10    1    1    1    1
>CCR11    0    1    1    1
>CCR12    1    1    1    1
>CCR13    1    1    1    1
>CCR14    0    0    1    1

I just checked this one with Hiarcs 7.32 on my K6/450. It heavily fails low on
Nxc4, and switches to Nc6 after 51 secs.
So, accounting for your hardware being a bit faster than mine, I agree with your
result. I suspect that the originally posted results for Hiarcs are not okay.
The fail-low was so drastic. I can't imagine that Hiarcs won't see it on even
faster hardware.

Uli

>CCR15    1    1    1    1
>CCR16    0    0    0    0
>CCR17    1    1    1    1
>CCR18    1    1    1    1
>CCR19    1    1    1    1
>CCR20    1    1    1    1
>CCR21    1    1    1    1
>CCR22    0    0    0    0
>CCR23    1    1    1    1
>CCR24    1    1    1    1
>CCR25    1    1    1    1
>Totals  18   18   19   18
>
>
>CCR14  15"
>rnbqkb1r/pppp1ppp/3n4/8/2BQ4/5N2/PPP2PPP/RNB2RK1 b kq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:
>
>1. ³ (-0.63): 6...Nxc4 7.Re1+ Be7 8.Qxg7 Rf8 9.Bg5 f6 10.Qxh7 Nxb2
>2. = (0.10): 6...f6 7.Bd3 Nf7 8.Bf4 Nc6 9.Qd5
>3. ² (0.48): 6...Nc6 7.Re1+ Ne7 8.Bd3 a6 9.Nc3 f6
>4. ± (0.72): 6...Rg8 7.Bg5 Nc6 8.Qd3 Be7 9.Qxh7 Kf8 10.Qh4
>
>(Kostick,  10.05.2001)
>
>
>CCR14  30"
>rnbqkb1r/pppp1ppp/3n4/8/2BQ4/5N2/PPP2PPP/RNB2RK1 b kq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:
>
>1. ³ (-0.63): 6...Nxc4 7.Re1+ Be7 8.Qxg7 Rf8 9.Bg5 f6 10.Qxh7 Nxb2
>2. = (0.23): 6...f6 7.Re1+ Be7 8.Bb3 Nc6 9.Qd5 g6 10.Bf4
>3. ± (0.71): 6...Rg8 7.Bg5 Nc6 8.Qd3 Be7 9.Qxh7 Kf8 10.Bxe7+ Qxe7
>4. ± (0.73): 6...Nc6 7.Re1+ Ne7 8.Bd3 b6 9.Bf4 Bb7 10.Bxd6 cxd6 11.Qxd6
>
>(Kostick,  10.05.2001)
>
>
>CCR14  1 minute
>rnbqkb1r/pppp1ppp/3n4/8/2BQ4/5N2/PPP2PPP/RNB2RK1 b kq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:
>
>1. ² (0.26): 6...f6 7.Re1+ Be7 8.Bb3 Nf7 9.Bf4 Nc6 10.Bxf7+ Kxf7 11.Qd5+ Kf8
>12.Nc3
>2. +- (2.80): 6...Nxc4 7.Re1+ Ne3 8.Rxe3+ Be7 9.Qxg7 Rf8 10.Ng5 d5 11.Nxh7 d4
>12.Rxe7+ Qxe7 13.Nxf8 Qxf8 14.Qxd4
>3. ± (0.71): 6...Rg8 7.Bg5 Nc6 8.Qd3 Be7 9.Qxh7 Kf8 10.Bxe7+ Qxe7
>4. ± (0.73): 6...Nc6 7.Re1+ Ne7 8.Bd3 b6 9.Bf4 Bb7 10.Bxd6 cxd6 11.Qxd6
>
>(Kostick,  10.05.2001)
>
>
>CCR14  2 minutes
>rnbqkb1r/pppp1ppp/3n4/8/2BQ4/5N2/PPP2PPP/RNB2RK1 b kq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:
>
>1. ² (0.33): 6...f6 7.Re1+ Be7 8.Bb3 Nf7 9.Bf4 Na6 10.Nc3 0-0 11.Rad1
>2. ² (0.67): 6...Nc6 7.Re1+ Ne7 8.Bd3 f6 9.Bf4 Nf7 10.Nc3 d5
>3. ± (0.81): 6...Rg8 7.Bg5 Nc6 8.Qd3 Be7 9.Qxh7 Kf8 10.Bxe7+ Nxe7 11.Nbd2 Nxc4
>12.Nxc4
>4. +- (2.80): 6...Nxc4 7.Re1+ Ne3 8.Rxe3+ Be7 9.Qxg7 Rf8 10.Ng5 d5 11.Nxh7 d4
>12.Rxe7+ Qxe7 13.Nxf8 Qxf8 14.Qxd4
>
>(Kostick,  10.05.2001)



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