Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:11:23 05/11/01
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On May 11, 2001 at 15:10:30, Chris Taylor wrote: >I ran this 6 ply tournament. On a PIII 733, and used Nunn Test, then all play >all. >It was a collection of Chessbase/Fritz compatable programs. >I was curious to see what would happen? I used ELOStat version 1.1b by >Frank Schubert to analyse the results. >What has suprised me is the result of Hiarcs, version 6 and 7.32.... >Finaly, the number chosen for the final elo calc was a base of 2300. >I understand this is not any basis for any conclusion, other than, it was fun! > The reason for the result is the experiment is flawed. You had too many things you changed when you chose ply as the limit. IE you should compare the _time_ taken in (say) the hiarcs vs crafty match. I'll bet Crafty was searching in a fraction of a second, while hiarcs was taking many seconds per move... that kind of handicap is typical when you do a "ply" test with different programs since different programs use completely different types of searches. >The games are available, and so is medication............. > >Chris Taylor > >10 programs, 900 games > >Games : 900 (finished) > >White Wins : 395 (43.9 %) >Black Wins : 351 (39.0 %) >Draws : 154 (17.1 %) >Unfinished : 0 > >White Perf. : 52.4 % >Black Perf. : 47.6 % > >ECO A = 90 Games (10.0 %) >ECO B = 270 Games (30.0 %) >ECO C = 180 Games (20.0 %) >ECO D = 180 Games (20.0 %) >ECO E = 180 Games (20.0 %) > >Individual statistics: > >(1) Hiarcs 6.0 : 180 (+140,= 24,- 16), 84.4 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 14,= 4,- 2), 80.0 % >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 19,= 0,- 1), 95.0 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 17,= 2,- 1), 90.0 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 19,= 1,- 0), 97.5 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 16,= 3,- 1), 87.5 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 16,= 3,- 1), 87.5 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 18,= 1,- 1), 92.5 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 8,= 5,- 7), 52.5 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 13,= 5,- 2), 77.5 % > > >(2) Hiarcs 7.32 : 180 (+137,= 29,- 14), 84.2 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 17,= 3,- 0), 92.5 % >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 16,= 4,- 0), 90.0 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 17,= 3,- 0), 92.5 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 17,= 3,- 0), 92.5 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 15,= 3,- 2), 82.5 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 15,= 3,- 2), 82.5 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 7,= 5,- 8), 47.5 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 17,= 2,- 1), 90.0 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 16,= 3,- 1), 87.5 % > > >(3) Nimzo 7.32 : 180 (+ 80,= 35,- 65), 54.2 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 13,= 1,- 6), 67.5 % >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 7,= 6,- 7), 50.0 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 13,= 4,- 3), 75.0 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 11,= 6,- 3), 70.0 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 13,= 3,- 4), 72.5 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 8,= 7,- 5), 57.5 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 2,= 5,- 13), 22.5 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 12,= 0,- 8), 60.0 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 1,= 3,- 16), 12.5 % > > >(4) Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 180 (+ 70,= 33,- 77), 48.1 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 8,= 5,- 7), 52.5 % >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 11,= 1,- 8), 57.5 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 9,= 4,- 7), 55.0 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 12,= 4,- 4), 70.0 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 11,= 5,- 4), 67.5 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 1,= 3,- 16), 12.5 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 11,= 1,- 8), 57.5 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 2,= 3,- 15), 17.5 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 5,= 7,- 8), 42.5 % > > >(5) Comet B32 : 180 (+ 63,= 33,- 84), 44.2 % > >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 4,= 8,- 8), 40.0 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 9,= 4,- 7), 55.0 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 10,= 3,- 7), 57.5 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 13,= 2,- 5), 70.0 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 7,= 5,- 8), 47.5 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 2,= 4,- 14), 20.0 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 12,= 3,- 5), 67.5 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 0,= 3,- 17), 7.5 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 6,= 1,- 13), 32.5 % > > >(6) Fritz 5.32 : 180 (+ 68,= 15,- 97), 41.9 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 5,= 3,- 12), 32.5 % >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 12,= 4,- 4), 70.0 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 9,= 2,- 9), 50.0 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 11,= 1,- 8), 57.5 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 13,= 1,- 6), 67.5 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 8,= 1,- 11), 42.5 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 1,= 1,- 18), 7.5 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 1,= 2,- 17), 10.0 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 8,= 0,- 12), 40.0 % > > >(7) Crafty 17.14 : 180 (+ 51,= 40,- 89), 39.4 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 8,= 8,- 4), 60.0 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 7,= 8,- 5), 55.0 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 7,= 4,- 9), 45.0 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 9,= 5,- 6), 57.5 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 8,= 1,- 11), 42.5 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 1,= 0,- 19), 5.0 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 4,= 4,- 12), 30.0 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 0,= 4,- 16), 10.0 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 7,= 6,- 7), 50.0 % > > >(8) Fritz 3.10 : 180 (+ 51,= 33,- 96), 37.5 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 7,= 4,- 9), 45.0 % >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 5,= 8,- 7), 45.0 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 9,= 3,- 8), 52.5 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 10,= 3,- 7), 57.5 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 7,= 4,- 9), 45.0 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 1,= 2,- 17), 10.0 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 9,= 2,- 9), 50.0 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 0,= 3,- 17), 7.5 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 3,= 4,- 13), 25.0 % > > >(9) Fritz 4.01 : 180 (+ 47,= 33,-100), 35.3 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 7,= 3,- 10), 42.5 % >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 9,= 4,- 7), 55.0 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 8,= 3,- 9), 47.5 % >Fritz 5.00 : 20 (+ 8,= 8,- 4), 60.0 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 4,= 4,- 12), 30.0 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 0,= 1,- 19), 2.5 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 8,= 1,- 11), 42.5 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 0,= 3,- 17), 7.5 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 3,= 6,- 11), 30.0 % > > >(10) Fritz 5.00 : 180 (+ 39,= 33,-108), 30.8 % > >Comet B32 : 20 (+ 5,= 2,- 13), 30.0 % >Crafty 17.14 : 20 (+ 6,= 5,- 9), 42.5 % >Fritz 3.10 : 20 (+ 7,= 3,- 10), 42.5 % >Fritz 4.01 : 20 (+ 4,= 8,- 8), 40.0 % >Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 20 (+ 4,= 5,- 11), 32.5 % >Hiarcs 6.0 : 20 (+ 1,= 3,- 16), 12.5 % >Fritz 5.32 : 20 (+ 6,= 1,- 13), 32.5 % >Hiarcs 7.32 : 20 (+ 2,= 3,- 15), 17.5 % >Nimzo 7.32 : 20 (+ 4,= 3,- 13), 27.5 % > > > > Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + - Draws > > 1 Hiarcs 6.0 : 152.0/180 84.4 2262 2556 33 98 13.3 % > 2 Hiarcs 7.32 : 151.5/180 84.2 2263 2553 33 91 16.1 % > 3 Nimzo 7.32 : 97.5/180 54.2 2289 2318 49 46 19.4 % > 4 Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 86.5/180 48.1 2293 2279 45 51 18.3 % > 5 Comet B32 : 79.5/180 44.2 2296 2255 47 48 18.3 % > 6 Fritz 5.32 : 75.5/180 41.9 2297 2241 55 46 8.3 % > 7 Crafty 17.14 : 71.0/180 39.4 2299 2225 49 44 22.2 % > 8 Fritz 3.10 : 67.5/180 37.5 2300 2212 53 43 18.3 % > 9 Fritz 4.01 : 63.5/180 35.3 2302 2197 55 42 18.3 % > 10 Fritz 5.00 : 55.5/180 30.8 2306 2165 60 39 18.3 % > >END><
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