Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:19:51 05/11/01
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On May 11, 2001 at 18:09:42, Joshua Lee wrote: >On May 11, 2001 at 10:54:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 11, 2001 at 09:47:17, Joshua Lee wrote: >> >>>Kasparov,G - Comp Deep Blue Game 6 >>> >>>[D] rbr5/1p1q1p1k/pPP1pBp1/P2pP2p/3Q3P/6P1/4RP2/2R3K1 b - - 0 1 >>> >>>I've looked at this position every so often and wonder how come no program wants >>>to play pawn takes? I have looked at the analyzed game and either way Black is >>>lost much earlier. This i believe can only show how far programs are away from >>>being on this level as some people have made the arguement of "Well if this >>>program could search that many nodes or more" I think i asked about this as well >>>but this should clearly show that even if your computer searched twice as many >>>nodes as Deep Blue or even Deeper Blue it may find deeper tactics but it is >>>still looking at the position and evaluating it differently and not as well. The >>>same goes for any of us Compared to a GM or IM they Think about each position >>>Differently than we do. >> >> >>One obvious reason is it gives white a protected passed pawn on the 6th rank. >> >>Another is there are obvious tactical problems after bxc6. Qc5 is one >>issue to deal with. Rec2 is another... Etc. !!!!! DB played pawn takes, the alternative analysis given in the Fritz6 database is for Rxc6. > >This would just hint that Deep Blue is NOT better than commercial programs >positionally and that is not true. In fact if i remember correctly the move made >is thought to be worse than the alternative atleast by fritz and hiarcs so does >this mean that the depth shows something the programs don't see or is it >something else. > > >The point i was trying to make is Deep Blue Made this move but most software >available will not. I guess i didn't explain myself well enough, I did say >however that Deep Blue was lost prior but i want to know why Commercial Programs >will not play the same move as DB shouldn't they after some time? There has to >be some reason that shows the move played slightly better than the other so is >it that besides speed the program is better or what? Was this from the first match or the second?
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