Author: Chessfun
Date: 21:34:26 05/11/01
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On May 11, 2001 at 21:56:55, Christophe Theron wrote: >On May 11, 2001 at 16:01:29, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On May 11, 2001 at 14:53:07, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 11, 2001 at 12:36:50, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>On May 11, 2001 at 10:47:49, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>It really doesn't show anything. Ferret at that time was running on a >>>>>single cpu pentium pro 200 I believe. At least that is what I was using >>>>>at that time and Bruce and I were using identical hardware. >>>>> >>>>>It was a reasonable anti-computer game. Whether he could do that with today's >>>>>ferret and today's hardware is a totally different question. >>>> >>>>That game was played on a Pentium 133 that had two copies of the program running >>>>simultaneously. I was at work, and for such an important game I didn't want to >>>>have someone burst into my office and demand I do something intensive on my >>>>computer, so I asked my wife to start it for me at home, and she got two copies >>>>going at once by mistake. I did not announce this at the time, because I didn't >>>>want to be accused of whining about the losses. He won against the best I could >>>>do that day, and I accepted that. >>> >>>I remember that now... I think this might have been just before we both moved >>>to P6/200's then... I remember the "wife" problem when we were chatting... >> >>It wasn't really a problem. I gave her instructions over the phone and she did >>the best she could. She was probably chasing two kids around, and it's not like >>she spends a lot of time messing with Window NT and my chess program in >>particular. >> >>>>Those two games (Shirov won both) have become signature games for my program for >>>>some reason. I still hear about them despite their being played approximately >>>>five years ago. >>>> >>>>But that *was* old hardware, and the version I was running was approximately >>>>*800* distinct versions ago. >>>> >>>>I was honored that my program was able to play some 30 0 versus Shirov, and he >>>>did a great job bashing in the program. Shirov is *in my own limited >>>>experience* the strongest anti-computer GM, and he could have probably totalled >>>>the program on any hardware. >>>> >>>>I will say that I spoke with Shirov after he played some 5 0 against Ferret on >>>>my 533 mhz Alpha in approximately 1998. He told me that he thought it seemed as >>>>if it was seeing as much in 5 0 as it did in those 30 0 games. It's very >>>>interesting that 500/133 or 500/66, whichever you wish to use, is approximately >>>>6, so he is pretty close to right. Of course now it would be seeing the same >>>>stuff in a 2 0 or a 3 0. >>>> >>>>I'm surprised that Keene couldn't find something more modern. If he's looking >>>>for bad games against humans, there was the game against Vaganian at the 1999 >>>>WCCC post-tournament exhibition, where my program moved its QB 4 times in a row, >>>>in order to get it from c1 to d2. If he wants to see a bad game against a >>>>computer, he can pick the one against Hiarcs from the same event. If he wants >>>>to see a good game he can examine the one versus Fritz at that event. >>>> >>>>bruce >>> >>> >>>I think it was just a so-called "puff-piece" that needed a bit of filler, and >>>your game became "it" for the week. :) >> >>Oh well. As long as he didn't say I was an idiot or something. That would mark >>the first time a reporter of any sort got something right. >> >>bruce > > > >Ahem... Given the current stream of events what were the odds that the Ferret >game would come to Keene's mind just by chance? > >In particular a LOST game from 5 years ago? > >What is the subliminal message behind his paper? > >Look... Now I'm talking exactly like Larry Proffer! :) Like who? Sarah.
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