Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 22:51:41 05/11/01
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On May 11, 2001 at 17:46:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>Well fine. We've got darth vader and the evil empire scoped out, but who's
>going to play the part of Obie-Wan?
>
>{ Fades to a scene of C3PO worrying aloud as R2D2 attaches a probe to the side
>of the chess computer... }
you have seen to much star wars shit.
:-))
there is again a misuse happening. money is involved. people (chess-programmers)
GET BETRAYED. the thing is unfair. and it was arranged behind the scene
(paderborn) to BE UNFAIR.
It splits the computerchess community into parts.
When i said something about the people, here and elsewhere
WHO works for whom, why and for what reason,
i was heavily attacked.
because what i said was untrue ? NO.
Because what i said was unnice to hear.
name, fame, glory. and a few business man exploiting the
will of the programmers to become famous. and to make money.
and deals behind the scene. arranged competitions. the misuse
of the name and the reputation of an expert.
and the need of the expert to be misused in the name of money
and fame.
to be on top.
i was exactly nearly banned here because i said something
that became very much later an obvious fact, obvious to see
for all others.
the people are known. their deals are known. the facts are clear.
and it should be forbidden to talk about those deals in public and
to value the moral issue and to ask for a fair competition?
a competition WITHOUT all strong chess programs involved,
without asking the community and without fair conditions
is shit.
chess is about fairness. but what some people make out of this,
in computerchess, is a shame.
a qualification against kramnik, without
the strongest programs involved, the programmers invited
and asked about the conditions,
IS NO COMPETITION at all.
is only a money event, made to increase the money and "fame"
of a few people in front of the stage, with another few people
in the back-scene, behind the curtains, - well we know those names
and their interests , don't we -
not known and not seen to the mass of the readers and customers.
you want to make a joke about it, want to call the opinion
of some here a typical joke, a pattern of clichee ?!
what is your intention of doing so ? can't you see the real facts ?
my girl has studied psychology, she met most of the people involved
in this issue, in paderborn herself, and she would need 5 minutes
observing the data to exactly tell you WHO and WHAT and WHY is happening.
it's so obvious that one wonders why the computerchess community is unable
to recognize.
you don't want it to be understood, yes ?!
you want to confuse and to make it unclear.
you want the people to believe in something that is not existing.
instead of seeing what is going on.
well.
continue.
tell us your fantasy stuff about george lucas shit.
i see that christophe and ed and a few others got betrayed.
and i know who is in charge and how the thing has been arranged.
and i don't like this.
it's not astonishing for me. cause i knew the people involved before.
but it still disgusts me.
because i like most of the people involved much, and i love the whole
topic (computerchess) in general so much that i cannot live with the
fact to see a few of my friends betrayed, misused and overtaken by
a few people. these few people have always been the same.
over a long period of 2 decades, those people have made a good living
by exploiting the computerchess community.
in the result, the group has decreased members, spirit and honest
behaviour, has lost fairness and moral.
for the sake of money, and fame, and in increasing the banking account
of always the same few people.
they have IMO become the plague of computerchess.
in the last 5 years they have damaged much more than they have ever given
to the community in the years before.
they shit on friendship.
do they have any friends themselvers others than the ones who work
for them, because they pay them ? i would not say so.
they have no friends. only that they don't know.
it cannot continue this way IMO.
these people have to be stopped. NOW.
it's enough.
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