Author: Larry Proffer
Date: 07:55:18 05/12/01
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On May 12, 2001 at 10:13:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 12, 2001 at 07:25:50, Larry Proffer wrote: > >>On May 12, 2001 at 02:17:18, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>>On May 11, 2001 at 21:56:55, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>Ahem... Given the current stream of events what were the odds that the Ferret >>>>game would come to Keene's mind just by chance? >>>> >>>>In particular a LOST game from 5 years ago? >>>> >>>>What is the subliminal message behind his paper? >>> >>>:-))) >>> >>>>Look... Now I'm talking exactly like Larry Proffer! :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Christophe >>> >>>right. and the reason is that you feel that the message is: >>> >>>keene has been influenced by misleading data, he got manipulated. >>> >>>there have been people trying to influence the event with showing wrong >>>and misleading information. WHY? >>> >>>because they wanted all the money and the fame and the control over the event, >>>FOR THEMSELVES. >> >>But Chessbase have very generously pledged the money (if they win) of four >>hundred thousand US dollars to a young players fund - or so it says on their >>website. >> >>So that's $400,000 for the program if it wins, and $600,000 for Kramnik who >>would correspondlingly lose. > >You are missing the point. ChessBase isn't playing for the "prize" money. >They are playing for the advertising/free publicity. _That_ is worth far more >than $400,000. > > > > > >> >>However, if Kramnik wins, he gets $800,000; and since I read somewhere the total >>prize money is $1,000,000, would it be reasonable to assume therefore, that if >>the program loses, it gets $200,000 ? >> >>Does anyone know if this is true? $400,000 for a win, $200,000 for a draw or >>loss? > >Whomever came up with that way of doing prizes was 100% brain-dead. Why not >just say "human gets it all, whether he wins or loses" and be done with it? > > > > > >> >>Also, if true, is Chessbase generously pledging the $200,000 to the "young >>players fund" (if they lose)? >> >> >>It seems to me that Chessbase are an honourable and reasonable company; so your >>statement that "they wanted all the money" can't be true if "they" is Chessbase. >>Otherwise why give it all away so generously if they win? > > >It isn't about the prize money, whether ChessBase is honorable or not. It is >about the publicity, which the computer will get whether it wins or loses. It >appears to be the "best computer chess program in the world" to the general >layperson. It is hard to disagree with you. But, still the question is begged .... Why did Ossi throw all this free publicity for Shredder and minimum $200,000 away? Why did he throw it away so his biggest competitor picked it up? Because Kramnik wanted the program 3 months early? Come on. Smart businessman doesn't give away assets of $200,000 guaranteed plus Hyatt's estimate of $400,000 worth of publicity for nothing. Does he? In a fit of pique? Because the program can be played with beforehand? Smart businessman never does anything unless he sees profit. Old Chinese saying. Smart programmer doesn't allow it either. New Chinese saying.
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