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Subject: Re: If programs are only IM strength, why bother to play Kramnik??

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 13:53:25 05/12/01

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On May 12, 2001 at 16:36:27, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On May 12, 2001 at 16:26:55, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On May 12, 2001 at 16:11:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>In my opinion no program can - on tournament level 40/120 - get more than 2300
>>>ELO against solid human players. The shorter the time control the higher the
>>>perfomance of the computer programs. And by the way, the SSDF list is at least
>>>about 200-300 ELO too high.
>>>Kurt
>>
>>You have a right to your opinion, however, how do you account fot the
>>ratings above 2300 at 40/2 by the programs (180+ games)?
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>I have no explanation for that, except the high ELO rating may be based on games
>vs strong (but less solid) human players. I am quite sure, if I let play a very
>sold chess player of my club (2120 ELO) only a few of the top programs will be
>able to obtain more than a score of 55-60 %.
>Kurt

Well, you are entitled to that opinion.  By 'solid', do you mean
a long amount of time to prepare against the computer (say 3 months or
more) or do you mean rating, or do you mean anti-computer
tactics?

If you look at the results from the games and the strong IM
and strong GM players, you will find some very strong ratings (2700+)
and a some failed anti-computer tactics (some successful, but fewer as
time marches on).

Preparation time against a specific program/hardware (say 3 months is what
the world champ says he needs) seems to be the standard handicap
people need.  Just my 2 cents.  :)

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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