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Subject: Re: If programs are only IM strength, why bother to play Kramnik??

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 15:08:38 05/12/01

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On May 12, 2001 at 16:28:51, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On May 12, 2001 at 16:23:21, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>On May 12, 2001 at 16:11:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>In my opinion no program can - on tournament level 40/120 - get more than 2300
>>>ELO against solid human players. The shorter the time control the higher the
>>>perfomance of the computer programs. And by the way, the SSDF list is at least
>>>about 200-300 ELO too high.
>>>Kurt
>>
>>Then how did DJ6 score 2703 against Human Gm's???
>>
>>Regards
>>Jonas
>
>Study the games, and you will not much see of what I understand about soldid
>playing. As already mentioned earlier I still get about 30 % against the
>monsters without using any anti computer strategy. And this should simply not be
>possible for a player with about 2000 ELO?
>
>Regards
>Kurt

What hardware do you run the progs on when you get a 30% score? is that a 30% of
ALL the games you have played against progs? if so could you please post ALL the
games so i can see the 30% score with my own eyes? To say that the games DJ6
played against GM's where not what you concider "solid" chess is to say that the
GM's played weak against DJ6 if they had played "solid" they would have
capitalized on DJ6 "unsolid" play, to play for a draw against any of the top 10
prog's, atleast 1 year ago, is not so hard if that is your main goal from the
word go, but to win is whole other kedle of fish!!! and since GM's play to win
and not to DRAW! they wil get stomped once in a while.

Regards
Jonas



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